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What the heck?!? by neopeius
Jul 07, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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So everybody is posting their ridiculously great mileage. I have a 2000 Echo and I have *never* gotten better than 35 MPG and have occasionally bottomed out at 29 MPG.
 
It is an Automatic, that's true, but that seems a world apart from the 40-50 MPG people are posting here. What am I doing wrong?
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wrong by kneisl1
Jul 07, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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I get good mpg because I never exceed 45 mph in "city" driving. I seldom use the AC, maybe for 20-25 days in summer. I have a 5 speed manual and I shift at 10-15-25-35 mph. I often am able to "cruise" at 31-33 mph in fifth in town because it is so flat here in NJ. (thats a huge help...the flatness)
   To get the best mpg on the highway you need to maintain 60-65 mph. I have gotten over 50 mpg twice now when doing that. I should mention I almost never rack up "highway" miles most of my driving is done in town, specifically 6 miles to work and back never exceeding 45 mph.
   With the advent of 10% alcohol in gasoline since a couple of years ago I get much worse mileage in winter than I used to. Probably average 35 mpg occasionally 33 mpg sometimes 36 mpg. I used to get 36-38 mpg years ago. Summers Im getting 40mpg and even better this summer occasionally up to 43-44. (but to be fair those figures include a little "long distance" cruising on errands of 15-20 miles.
   I would check your tire pressures frequently (weekly) making sure you keep 32 psi in them. You also have to drive and accelerate s l o w l y. Your AF is clean, right? I also do oil changes every four months and average 1500-2000 miles between changes.
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Re: What the heck?!? [neopeius] by andyr2
Jul 07, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: neopeius (Jul 07, 2008 2:01 pm)

You car is automatic, and I also agree with everything kneisl mentions. I do have a 2002 manual, but have myself had problems getting into the 40-50 mpg range. Perhaps its because my area isn't completely flat (even if it is, the freeways still have up and down grades). I could also blame it on my choice to purchase an Echo with an obviously completely rebuilt front end, and who knows what other hidden damage could also be contributing. I'm also new at driving a stick, but it's been 2 or 3 months now and I dont think my driving is going to get much better very quickly.
 
I am happy to report, however, that I have for once broken the 40 mpg barrier. After extensive research and determining that my odometer is inaccurate by about 3.3%, I have acheived 441.8 miles on 10.571 gallons (427.7 * 1.033) for just about 41.8 mpg. This includes a 186 mile trip to San Diego and back, and the rest a little of everything. I have invested in a Scangauge, so hopefully my numbers will continue improving from this point.
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what the heck by mopar71
Jul 08, 2008 (8:47 am)
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I was getting the same mpg always around 35 to 39.But I did a couple of things ,my echo is also an automatic and the sticks will get better mileage.I changed my engine oil and trans to royal purpel synthetic.My sweet spot on mileage is 60 to 65 mph.You cannot drive at 45 in a 65 so thats out of the question.I replaced my air intake with a cai(cold air intake) I also changed my spark plugs(ngk's) and went one step colder plug.Made a big difference! also buy low rolling resistant tires and keep checking to make sure they are inflated to the recomended pressure.Mine are at 35.I just did my reading and am getting over 40.my best was 44. I drove 267.2 miles and used 6.030 gallons.My next move is to get the SCANGAUGE2. You can better see what mileage you get real time.I dont have cruise control and this gauge is a better monitor. I live in PA and have a lot of hills,Good luck .
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Re: what the heck [mopar71] by andyr2
Jul 08, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: mopar71 (Jul 08, 2008 8:47 am)

Wow, so you've managed to get an automatic into the 40 range, very impressive. There's a lot more potential than I thought then. I think I will be looking into spark plugs soon.
I highly recommend the Scangauge II, worth every penny. However, I did have to adjust my consumption factor to +6% after the first tank, so dont get too excited until you get real numbers at the pump. Luckily my disappointment was slightly offset since my car also understates miles driven.
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Re: what the heck [andyr2] by highmiler650
Jul 08, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: andyr2 (Jul 08, 2008 9:16 am)

Impressive?
 
My 2001 Echo achieved 41 MPG AVERAGE over 170K miles in a commute with 50% city and 50% stop and go.
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Re: what the heck [highmiler650] by nippononly
Jul 08, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: highmiler650 (Jul 08, 2008 11:18 am)

My running average over 42K miles so far is just shy of 42 mpg, about 41.9.
 
'02 5 speed. Lots of hills where I live in the Bay Area, but I also do a lot of regular driving on rural 2-lanes where the most you can safely do is about 50 mph. Doing 50 in 5th gear has the engine just loafing along.
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Re: what the heck [highmiler650] by andyr2
Jul 08, 2008 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: highmiler650 (Jul 08, 2008 11:18 am)

For an automatic transmission, yes I think that's pretty impressive, from what I've heard from those that don't have a manual transmission
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by mopar71
Jul 09, 2008 (11:53 am)
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I drive this car from PA to NY. 4 days a week,70 miles one way,140 a day.90 pecent highway.using the AC spairingly.I have 130k miles on the odometer.Runs like a champ! This is my second Echo,my daughter totaled my first one,I said I had to get another one.I like these cars.
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Re: [mopar71] by runteacherrun
Jul 15, 2008 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: mopar71 (Jul 09, 2008 11:53 am)

How did the car hold up in that accident? I'm considering a 2002 echo, but am having a bit of a problem finding safety ratings.

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