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I'm wondering by nippononly
Jun 30, 2008 (7:27 am)
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if today's fill-up really got all the way to "full", as it was better than usual: 8.8 gallons, 382 miles, which is almost 43.5 mpg. Niiice.
 
But I will be looking next time to see if it evens out with an extra-low tank, which would mean it didn't quite finish filling today.
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good news by kneisl1
Jul 03, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Filled up today 4.5 gallons to go 197 miles. Thats 43.7 mpg a new in town high for me. I got 44 mpg the time before too. Thats 100% in town driving. Yeah baby!
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hey by nippononly
Jul 05, 2008 (10:26 pm)
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guess what? That last tank was no fluke, as tonight's was actually slightly BETTER!
 
372 miles, 8.5 gallons, makes 43.75 mpg. So I've been averaging better than 43.5 mpg for at least the last 750 miles.
 
Which gets me to wondering: it had its major service about 1000 miles ago, maybe 1300 miles, and that of course included fresh engine and gear oil and a new air filter - perhaps all that helped with the mileage a little bit. Every mpg counts with the gas at $4.50!
 
One thing I have now firmly concluded is that cold winter temps hurt mileage in the Echo a lot more than heavy A/C use does in summer. All my driving lately has been around the 'burbs, with frequent regular A/C use as our temps have been getting into the 80s on many days and occasionally into the 90s. Despite that, I am getting some of the best numbers I have had in a while!
#219 of 345
miles by kneisl1
Jul 06, 2008 (6:18 am)
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I wonder are the refiners going light on the oxygenated gas?
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What the heck?!? by neopeius
Jul 07, 2008 (2:01 pm)
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So everybody is posting their ridiculously great mileage. I have a 2000 Echo and I have *never* gotten better than 35 MPG and have occasionally bottomed out at 29 MPG.
 
It is an Automatic, that's true, but that seems a world apart from the 40-50 MPG people are posting here. What am I doing wrong?
#221 of 345
wrong by kneisl1
Jul 07, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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I get good mpg because I never exceed 45 mph in "city" driving. I seldom use the AC, maybe for 20-25 days in summer. I have a 5 speed manual and I shift at 10-15-25-35 mph. I often am able to "cruise" at 31-33 mph in fifth in town because it is so flat here in NJ. (thats a huge help...the flatness)
   To get the best mpg on the highway you need to maintain 60-65 mph. I have gotten over 50 mpg twice now when doing that. I should mention I almost never rack up "highway" miles most of my driving is done in town, specifically 6 miles to work and back never exceeding 45 mph.
   With the advent of 10% alcohol in gasoline since a couple of years ago I get much worse mileage in winter than I used to. Probably average 35 mpg occasionally 33 mpg sometimes 36 mpg. I used to get 36-38 mpg years ago. Summers Im getting 40mpg and even better this summer occasionally up to 43-44. (but to be fair those figures include a little "long distance" cruising on errands of 15-20 miles.
   I would check your tire pressures frequently (weekly) making sure you keep 32 psi in them. You also have to drive and accelerate s l o w l y. Your AF is clean, right? I also do oil changes every four months and average 1500-2000 miles between changes.
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Re: What the heck?!? [neopeius] by andyr2
Jul 07, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: neopeius (Jul 07, 2008 2:01 pm)

You car is automatic, and I also agree with everything kneisl mentions. I do have a 2002 manual, but have myself had problems getting into the 40-50 mpg range. Perhaps its because my area isn't completely flat (even if it is, the freeways still have up and down grades). I could also blame it on my choice to purchase an Echo with an obviously completely rebuilt front end, and who knows what other hidden damage could also be contributing. I'm also new at driving a stick, but it's been 2 or 3 months now and I dont think my driving is going to get much better very quickly.
 
I am happy to report, however, that I have for once broken the 40 mpg barrier. After extensive research and determining that my odometer is inaccurate by about 3.3%, I have acheived 441.8 miles on 10.571 gallons (427.7 * 1.033) for just about 41.8 mpg. This includes a 186 mile trip to San Diego and back, and the rest a little of everything. I have invested in a Scangauge, so hopefully my numbers will continue improving from this point.
#223 of 345
what the heck by mopar71
Jul 08, 2008 (8:47 am)
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I was getting the same mpg always around 35 to 39.But I did a couple of things ,my echo is also an automatic and the sticks will get better mileage.I changed my engine oil and trans to royal purpel synthetic.My sweet spot on mileage is 60 to 65 mph.You cannot drive at 45 in a 65 so thats out of the question.I replaced my air intake with a cai(cold air intake) I also changed my spark plugs(ngk's) and went one step colder plug.Made a big difference! also buy low rolling resistant tires and keep checking to make sure they are inflated to the recomended pressure.Mine are at 35.I just did my reading and am getting over 40.my best was 44. I drove 267.2 miles and used 6.030 gallons.My next move is to get the SCANGAUGE2. You can better see what mileage you get real time.I dont have cruise control and this gauge is a better monitor. I live in PA and have a lot of hills,Good luck .
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Re: what the heck [mopar71] by andyr2
Jul 08, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: mopar71 (Jul 08, 2008 8:47 am)

Wow, so you've managed to get an automatic into the 40 range, very impressive. There's a lot more potential than I thought then. I think I will be looking into spark plugs soon.
I highly recommend the Scangauge II, worth every penny. However, I did have to adjust my consumption factor to +6% after the first tank, so dont get too excited until you get real numbers at the pump. Luckily my disappointment was slightly offset since my car also understates miles driven.
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Re: what the heck [andyr2] by highmiler650
Jul 08, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: andyr2 (Jul 08, 2008 9:16 am)

Impressive?
 
My 2001 Echo achieved 41 MPG AVERAGE over 170K miles in a commute with 50% city and 50% stop and go.

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