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#24 of 43 Re: Pacifica Touring - 2 week "test drive" [steelydan0613]
Sep 15, 2005 (8:23 am)
I agree with you on the need for a 5 speed tranny. Presently there are large gaps in the gearing. It would greatly address the "underpowered" feelings by being able to better keep the engine in its power range.
I had just returned from a nearly 3000 mile trip where we kayaked down 240 miles of the Colorado river throught the Grand Canyon. Had 4 adults in the car, and 3 white water kayaks and 5 paddles on the roof rack. The cargo area in the Pac was fully jammed with gear and provisions for 2 weeks. Climbed several 8,000+ feet peaks in desert heats of over 115 F degrees and one, nearly 10,000 feet (Tioga Pass). Keeping the car at the proper RPMs for climbing had privided sufficient power, even for ocassional passing. Kept my speeds at, or below 70 MPH in consideration of the large surface area roof rack loads (150 lbs). On the way back, for a full day, we had extremely strong and gusty head and side-winds, gusting to 60 MPH. The roofrack was flexing, making worrysome noises but, held!!!
Despite all the climbing and head-winds the Pacifica returned a bit over 20 MPG trip average, which was really nice, given the loading, winds and elevation changes. Also, it is the most comfortable vehicle I've ever had. I could drive 11 hours straight and have no aches and pains when I stepped out. It was superbly stable in the wind gusts, as well.
I did visit my dealer prior to the trip and he replaced the lower front control arms for the clunking sound. It did not fix the noise. I am pretty confident that the clunking is really originating from the transaxle assembly. I'll have them check it again when ever I visit again. Hopefully not anytime soon.
#25 of 43 Re: Pacifica Touring - 2 week "test drive" [gmctruck]
Sep 19, 2005 (12:14 pm)
In your description you said it was "Underpowered, lack of cargo room, poor visibility, poor armrest"...would you buy one?
#26 of 43 Re: Pacifica Touring - 2 week "test drive" [bobw3]
Sep 20, 2005 (10:24 am)
"In your description you said it was "Underpowered, lack of cargo room, poor visibility, poor armrest"... would you buy one?"
Is is a good vehicle for a short term weekend getaway? .... yes!
Would I buy one to own? .... No, not unless some improvements were made on future models. Cargo room was my biggest complaint. With three of the four rear seats folded down, space was still very tight. If we had two kids instead of one, I would not have had enough room for everything to fit. I spent more time re packing everything during our trip than I wanted to and had to allow extra time for loading. If all four rear seats are up... forget it. You'd be lucky to fit a few grocery bags back there because there's so little room. Pacifica is a nice vehicle, but it does have some issues.
Aug 09, 2006 (7:25 am)
I've had my eye on the Pacifica for a while. Yesterday I drove a 2005 base, they were asking 18 grand but quickly went down to 16 and will probably go lower. It has 20K miles. I've also gotten two dealer prices for new 2006 base models, both at about 20Gs once all incentives and Chrysler Finance ($1000) are figured.
I like the Pac, tho it lacks cubbies and storage stashes. I like the firm handling and great ride, it leans far less than my Impala and rides far better. I'm curious about MPG, but that appears to vary by individual. What I see here is all over the map. I'm wondering if the 3.8 will have adequate power or if I should get the 3.5. The new 2007s will be out soon, the base will have a 3.8 and 4-speed (that's dumb, it should have the 6-speed) and the other models will have the new 4.0 and 6-speed. If I got the 3.8 I'd look at modding it with cold air intake and any other simple power-adders available.
Reliability issues appear spotty. I talked with the parts guru at one dealer, he said the same thing. He seemed pretty straight, said he'd bought a vehicle at a different Chrysler dealer because they gave a better price.
Any suggestions welcome. I'm after a base FWD model, hopefully with side bags but I realize those are probably rare. Thanks,
#28 of 43 Test drove the basic model '05
Dec 20, 2006 (9:15 pm)
I test drove the Pacifica tonight. I found a lot of great things about it, but reading all these horror stories here has me concerned. To say the least, I have a car that is topping the charts for reliability but unfortunately it's not the most comfortable to drive. Now back to Pacifica. The '04 would expect to show some problems due to the fact that it was the first year production, but the reliability continues to be an issue for later models. I'm trying to put things in perspective and I'm wondering how problematic, really, is the Pacifica? Do most have problems? I love the car, its a great ride, but the reliablity issues is a big problem.
#29 of 43 Re: Test drove the basic model '05 [guinnessman]
Dec 21, 2006 (7:14 am)
Do most have problems?
Not even close. Most owners are perfectly content with their trouble-free pacificas. If that wasn't the case, there'd be a heckuva lot more press than some simple messages on an automotive discussion board.
#30 of 43 Re: Test drove the basic model '05 [qbrozen]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Dec 21, 2006 (7:30 am)
...there'd be a heckuva lot more press than some simple messages on an automotive discussion board.
Yep, problems do tend to be a little more amplified than praise on message boards
#31 of 43 Re: Test drove the basic model '05 [guinnessman]
Dec 21, 2006 (9:39 am)
So far, at least at 8500 miles and a year later, the Pac has been great. No real problems to report, but a couple of small ones. A defective rear door lock and I can't remember the other prob. Seems well built and solid a year later as it should be. Mine is an 05. Can't say much about the 04.
There are more frustrated car owners in other crossover sections on Edmunds.com than Pac owners. I don't know the Pac's reliability 5 years from now. From what I can see w. my 05, it's excellent.
#32 of 43 Re: Test drove the basic model '05 [nelson33]
Dec 21, 2006 (1:10 pm)
My wife has a 2005 Touring AWD Pacifica purchased new in Sept 2004. It has somewhere around 18K miles on it right now. The only issue with this vehicle has been that the driver's side window holding mechanism broke last year. This was replaced under warranty. Normally I do not drive this vehicle. I have however driven this vehicle through the Cascade Mtns twice during the winter with some pretty unpleasant weather and it was just fine. My wife loves the ride, the look, the power and lack of any maintenance issues.
#33 of 43 Better safe than sorry...
Dec 24, 2006 (9:54 am)
Ever since I posted my reliability question on this forum, I have been researching the Pacifica and Chrysler vehicles in general. I was alarmed to find dozens of articles, official documents(lawsuits, government investigation, police reports), and owner testimonials that pointed to major quality and safety problems with Chrysler.
This is pretty worrisome:
I'm glad I found this forum, and I'm glad that I've done my research. Not only have I decided not to buy the Pacifica, but I also decided to stay away from all Chrysler vehicles -- better safe, than sorry--
Now, it doesn't mean that all Chrysler vehicles are of poor quality, and I don't intend to be bashing the brand. I'm sure there are many satisfied, repeated, loyal customers that enjoy their cars, but it seems to me that the risk of getting a lemon accompanied by poor customer service and declined warranty work is just too great for me personally.
As with all vehicles, I suggest that you, as a smart consumer, research the vehicle you like and make your own well informed decision.
Again, thanks everyone for responding, your help is much appreciated!