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Re: hhr [jhvegas] by poncho167
Sep 25, 2007 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: jhvegas (Sep 23, 2007 9:40 am)

You may want to do some research before you post on a forum. Most all of those you mentioned have manufacturing or parts plants in Mexico. How were Volkswagon ruined after they went to Mexico? In fact they were very successful building the VW Bug there from the late 1960's until 1995 or so.
 
Cars are considered foreign based on their country of origen. Example Toyota-Japan; BMW-Germany; Volvo/Sabb-Sweden.
 
GM has by far the highest domestic parts quantity in the US with 75 % overall, compared to Toyota's 49% overall. The Scian and Lexus are imported directly from Japan and thats how Toyota has the low 49% figure. Your old Toyota was probably less 20% domestic parts.
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Re: hhr [poncho167] by poncho167
Sep 26, 2007 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 25, 2007 4:26 am)

I didn't mean to be so critical of your last post. Honda, Ford, Chrysler, and GM, were recently effected by the bombing of a natural gas pipeline in Mexico where auto makers had to shut down their manufacturing facilities for several days. GM was able to convert to propane to avoid the shutdown.
 
Nissan has two plants there and shares one with Renault. Toyota uses 20 Mexican suppliers for parts and has paid over 600 million in recent years. Toyota also has a pickup truck plant in Tijuana.
 
Mitsubishi has been in Mexico since 2003.
 
Sorry, I don't have anymore time to post others at this time. Mexico and China are the trend for all auto companies to pursue cheap labor, but not necessarally poorly made cars because they all still have quality control.
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Re: hhr [poncho167] by 62vetteefp
Sep 26, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 26, 2007 4:38 am)

When the A cars were built in Mexico many years ago they put out better quality vehicles than the ones from Oshawa or Tarrytown. And those poor guys had little automation. They would be clikmbing in and out of those vehicles like nimble mice. But they put out the better product. Of course today the US has greatly improved their quality output.
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Re: hhr [poncho167] by jhvegas
Sep 26, 2007 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 26, 2007 4:38 am)

I did do some research....but that doesn't matter to a car salesman. Go sell another GM car. Cite your references if you are such an expert. I said manufactured, not parts. And by the way what is wrong with wanting our vehicles to made here?
I don't have time for this nonsense. I will only post what is wrong with the car from here on for the consumer who may be considering it... and for those who share the same problems and don't know what is wrong with the vehicle.
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Re: hhr [jhvegas] by poncho167
Sep 27, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: jhvegas (Sep 26, 2007 4:24 pm)

I only mentioned the Toyota parts along with there pickup assembly plant in Tijuana. All the others-Nissan, Honda, Mitsubishi, Mazda, Suburu, Isuzu, Volkswagon, GM, Chrysler, Ford, and I am sure others are also being manufactured in Mexico.
 
All you need to do is go to a search engine and type in the auto manufacturer manufactured in Mexico. It will bring up your Japanese cars and everything else.
 
You will get the most domestic product from an American manufacturer like GM over anything else. So there is your American company.
 
There is what they call American domestic and foreign domestic. Some Toyota models are foreign domestic because they are built in the U.S., but they will never be considered an American car no matter what the content.
 
You can find the domestic content on the windows Monroney sticker the next-time you are looking for a car. It shows the country of origin, final assembly, and where the engine and transmission came from. They are also going to be putting the crash test data on the stickers supposedly starting with the 2008 models.
 
My experience with cars is because I am a serious auto enthusiest who prefers both new and older cars, especially 1960's cars of which I have owned as well. I also do all my own auto maintenance and have never been to a quick lube shop for an oil change. I also have owned 6 motorcycles and currently own a Honda dirtbike. I do not own an HHR but have been in and driven several. It is one of the auto's on my list for future purchase but my 1992 Chevy truck purchased new just won't quite so that is my current ride.
 
It's unfortunate you may have had a bad experience but luckily your situation is somewhat rare and not common. You may have seen the same problem on the board before, but these boards are mostly made up with people who want to vent their frustration. Most people don't come to the forums because they don't have any issues to speak of. Go over to the Toyota or Honda forums sometime and see the anger over there. It is no different, just another make.
 
Six months ago or whenever you started your story you were mad because they wouldn't buy it back. What auto manufacture buys cars back?
 
Why spoil someone elses pleasant experience with your issues when the car is considered relatively sound and at a bargain of a price. Give it a rest because your rant isn't very convincing.
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Re: hhr [poncho167] by PAman
Oct 03, 2007 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 27, 2007 5:59 pm)

Good lord, why don't you guys go whine somewhere else??
 
I came in here to see how the HHR is holding up since I am thinking of buying one; what do I find? An arguement complaining about cars made in Mexico!
 
Yeah, I know the HHR is made in Mexico. So was my 1987 Chevrolet El Camino! Nothing new here; any car with a VIN that starts with a 3 is made in Mexico.
 
Move along, nothing new here.
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Re: hhr [PAman] by weighmaster
Oct 04, 2007 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: PAman (Oct 03, 2007 5:58 pm)

Back to the main topic.
New 2008 Owner... car is a smooth ride and quiet. Good for long trips. handles decent, but not as well as other cars, but well enough. Acceleration is good enough to not worry about merging onto freeways. Interior is nice, not spectacular, but this isnt a Cadillac or BMW... Overall, everything about this car is solid, and it looks great. Great bang for your buck, I feel like I definately got more than my moneys worth. I like it more than my 2005 Mustang.
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Re: hhr [PAman] by poncho167
Oct 06, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: PAman (Oct 03, 2007 5:58 pm)

I thought we did since the last post was last month until you opened it up again.
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Re: look up your rights at www.lemonlaw.com [smogdung] by marine2
Oct 06, 2007 (11:33 pm)
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Replying to: smogdung (Dec 05, 2006 6:18 pm)

Right, Toyota has had a bunch of major problems too.
 
In the United States, Toyota's largest market, the number of vehicles recalled soared to 2.2 million last year. That was double the number of vehicles recalled in 2004, and more than 10 times the 200,000 cars it recalled in 2003, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
 
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/04/business/recall.php
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Re: look up your rights at www.lemonlaw.com [marine2] by poncho167
Oct 07, 2007 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: marine2 (Oct 06, 2007 11:33 pm)

Yes, Toyota is going through some problems right now with their rush to be # 1 in sales. When you manufacture at such a high pace quality control is inevitably not going to be as good. With most auto companies catching up with Toyota is technology in the last few years, I see them pretty much peaking in sales about where they are right now. Their numbers will probably decline as people realize the false perceptions and that they are now just another company and that cars are pretty competitive brand for brand nowadays.

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