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Replying to: oldsarg (Jun 06, 2008 7:47 pm) Blame the deliverer who knew nothing. I can make that vehicle purr and you'd think you had two different vehicles. Styling is completely subjective. Why you gave up a Lexus and now complain of stepping down is beyond me. Helllooooo it's not a Lexus. That was YOUR choice. Whining about stepping down is childish don't you think? IT'S NOT A LEXUS!!! |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 04, 2008 2:39 pm)
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Replying to: joeox (Jun 06, 2008 8:32 pm) Just like any other car it has to be engaged and disengaged. |
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 I simply LOVED my Prius until it hit 5000 miles and we took it on a little 2300 mile trip. I bought it new in January. In April and May I noticed some strange fill ups. My car averages 47mpg. One tank was down to one bar at only 300 miles ... really bad mileage that tank. One fill up showed 55mpg ... boy was I excited! The next "top off" before the road trip was not correct for this car. I could only get 1.7 gallons in the tank and had driven 132 miles ... hummmm. Off we headed onto the road trip. First stop, we filled up ... gauge showed full ... drove 83 miles and had only four bars left on the fuel gauge. Had fill up issues the entire road trip ... no matter what time of day, the temperature or how SLOWLY gas was put into the tank. On the way home the mileage on the tank was 442 with four bars left ... something was definately amiss. Contacted Toyota technicians and Corporate about the tank/bladder issue. Long story short ... this is the first car I have owned since 1976 that I cannot fill up the tank easily ... do not know if the tank took 6 gallons or 10 gallons ... strangest thing of all is that Toyota Corporate notes that this is normal ... the bladder system only allows an average of 6-7 gallons a fill up ... even if you are on fumes! Long story short ... I not pleased with this issue ... plus I spoke with three other Prius owners in my area and their cars will NOT drive in the snow ... boy am I looking to see if my car also has that design flaw ... I have read that many other owners have experienced these issues ... after I bought the car of course ... maybe I am the only person that has a Prius 
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Hey Spyder... I'm in the same boat.. just this last fill-up was totally full.. overflowed a bit out the spicket. I have driven 450 miles still have 2 bars left - never driven this far before, normal for me is 420 miles then need a fill up.. but I suspect I'm only putting in 10 gal.. certainly not 12 gallons (except for the last fill). I did not see the 'shut off' problem until recently, last 2 tanks. I am disappointed also in this issue also. sc
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I have the gas guage problem also. I drove for 300 miles with the guage on two bars through some back roads. I was late for a meeting and the only gas station on the way did not take a credit card. It was quite worrysome to think that I could run out of gas--and no bars on my cell phone either. When I did fill up, it only took 6 gallons. Just another poorly designed feature on a sub-standard sub-compact. Oh, for my old Honda Civic. It was tight quarters to drive but I constantly got 4l per 100k (60+ mpg) with a top speed of 105 mph, which was what I normally drove on the German autobahn. I had over 250,000k on it when I left Germany, a great little car--almost as good as the old Studebaker Champion. |
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Replying to: scottc3 (Jun 17, 2008 6:58 pm)  [For more information, type into a search engine, "Kim Fenske drives a bus in Colorado" which brings up an AP story on the Prius.] The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades. 
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..but there's WAY too much concern about the fuel bladder issue. My guess is that they will do away with it on the Next Gen simply because of the annoyance it causes. Also the TCH and the HH don't have a bladder. Now that being said, ignore the damn thing. It's a minor annoyance at worst. Common sense should prevail. If you drive 100,000 miles or 200,000 miles and you keep accurate records of the fuel you purchased and the miles you've driven you will come to this unstartling conclusion....your fuel economy will be about 47.5 mpg over the life of your ownership. Obsessing over one tankful vs another is an an extraordinary waste of emotion. In looking at the Greenhybrid.com database and the EPA databases of owners reporting their fuel economy the middle 50% of the population is right at 47.5 mpg, Some are significantly higher and some as much as 15% lower, but that's a normal distribution curve of any population. Specificially regarding the fuel bladder issue if one tank seems to be far 'too short' then common sense should come into play. If a driver has driven 450 miles and used 9-10 gal of fuel and the auto shutoff clicks off at 2 gallons then obviously the tank is nowhere near full. It may take some 'babying' of the nozzle to get it to take another 6 or 7 gallons but it will do it. Common sense. You've used 9 gallons, you need to put about 9 gallons back into it no matter what the nozzle says. What annoys some drivers obsessing over their tank-by-tank results is that underfilling seems to inflate the fuel economy of the prior tank; 450 miles driven but 'only' 7 gal pumped gives the extra ordinary result of 64+ mpg...'Hot D***!!! Am I good or what!!' However after driving only about 350 miles on the current 7 gallon fillup and then filling to a normal 10+ gallons seems to drop the fuel economy into the low 30 range. 'Stupid defective car!' However combining the two tanks..............800 miles / 17 gallons = 47+ mpg. What a coincidence. In the long term one or two tanks just don't matter.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 18, 2008 7:28 am) |
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Replying to: gfr1 (Jun 18, 2008 8:19 pm)  kdyspyder ... gfr1 has it TOTALLY correct!!! This tank discussion has NOTHING to do with fuel economy. This is a SAFETY issue and HAZARD to the driver, passengers in the Prius and other drivers if the car runs out of fuel! So those of you that do not understand this serious safety issue, please quit telling the owners that ARE concerned to be happy that they get great fuel ecomony ... again fuel ecomony is NOT the issue here!!! A driver HAS to know that when a fuel gauge registers FULL that means FULL, not 1/2 a tank of gas, not 3/4 tank of gas ... but a FULL tank of gas. Not everyone drives in urban areas. This is a great little around town and short trips car. This is not a dependable or reliable long road trip car ... in rural areas where gas is not avaible 24/7! (Which is exactly I bought this Prius for ... I thought ... hey 10 gallons  45/mpg - boy - I can drive 450 miles/tank with gas to spare ... NOTTTT going to try that!) The faulty tank design along with the faulty gauge ... makes this car a safety hazard. (I have had my fuel gauge "fixed" three times ... it still does not work!) Anyway ... SAFETY is paramount ... Consumer Reports was VERY interested in this gas "tank" design flaw, expecially with Toyota Corporate OPENLY admiting the flawed bladder design, that 6-7 gallons is a "normal" fill up, not the 11.9 noted or 10 or 9 ... and that there is NO fix for this fuel tank safety hazard ...
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