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Replying to: trofrnk (Apr 29, 2008 1:28 pm) How? Never, ever drive on the Highway. From the original EPA values the Highway value was 51 mpg - at best. As soon as you get on the highway your best expected value is about 51 mpg. I get this value all the time in warm weather. Don't speed. The Prius is not excluded from being affected by the laws of physics. The faster you go the worse will be your fuel economy. OK so now you never drive on the Highway. To get 50+ mpg you have to have a fully warmed up vehicle. In fact the Prius is basically an ICE vehicle like the Matrix but it has an electro-mechanical assist. Just like any ICE vehicle the fluids and catalytic converter have to be brought up to operating temperatures. In addition in cold weather the cabin has to be warmed up. But it's Spring now. To get any vehicle up to optimal operating temperatures it has to run for at least 10-15 min. Thus any trip under 20 min will be done in less than optimal conditions. SHORT TRIPS ARE DEATH ON FUEL ECONOMY for every vehicle on the road. OK so now you're not on the highway and you're making trips of 20 min or longer in warm weather. No vehicle can obviate Newton's law of inertia. An object at rest wants to remain at rest. Try to avoid dead stops as much as possible in 'city' driving. So the way to get50 and 55 and 60 and 65 mpg is to drive at a moderate speed, say 35 mph, in good, warm, dry weather with few if any stops for 30-60 min. This btw is a near replication of the former EPA driving cycles that gave a 60 mpg rating. But as soon as you get on the highway you'll drop under 50 mpg....which is still 10-20 mpg better than just about any other vehicle on the road. |
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Replying to: timo6 (Apr 29, 2008 10:38 am) |
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What about the Prius makes you dead tired? The vibration from a Prius is much more than from my Lexus RX330. I drive my '04 all day every day and it fits like a glove. I have 194.000 miles on it and have had no problems. Are you young and immune to comfort?  Still have the original brakes. If you babying it for mileage, don't. Drive it like a car. You will still get great mileage and have less stress. Some people on these forums try and try to stretch their mileage by using all sorts or strategies to increase mileage. That just adds to stress. I have lived and driven in many countries of the world. I have driven several hundred types of motorized vehicles from extreem luxury to extreem cheap. A Prius is not, by far, a comfortable vehicle. My car is my office. If it isn't moving, I am not making money. No time for babying. I still average around 48+ MPG. I agree with you about using corn for fuel. All it does is drive food prices up. The solution is to grow more corn. I was a farmer once. The liberals have put the small farmer out of business and have paid them to not farm. I disagree with you about drilling in pristine areas. I have lived in one of those so-called "pristine widerness areas". What a joke. The death rate among children was much higher then. Only the very strong survived. God told us to subdue the land and not let the land rule us. Oil is a natural renewable resource. I still remember the liberal argument 50 years ago that the world would run out of oil in 20 years. What a bunch of hogwash. There is enormous untapped oil just discovered in the Dakotas. Even Ohio has enough "discovered" oil in Ohio to take care of its population that is not allowed to be used. Solar is the answer and all we have to do is find an efficient way to harness it. If we had no oil or gas the solution would suddenly be discovered. If what you say is true, (I use your logic) then all liberals would quit using motorized vehicles, reject professional sports (jocks produce most of those "greenhouse gases"), and shut down welfare offices (that forces peoples not to used their own sweat) thus reducing the need for oil by about 90%. If taxing the public is the liberal's only objective, then, by definition, those solutions are totally bogus. Forward thinking people originally rejected tea taxes that started a great nation of people free to discover and prosper. You have convinced me that I need to sell my Prius and buy a large SUV, just for my comfort. |
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The Soviet Union used your same arguments to promote and build the Yugo automobile--a horseless carriage for the masses. It was a big loser for many years and they had to pump millions of taxpayer monies into the plant to keep it afloat. Et tu?
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Replying to: oldsarg (May 10, 2008 8:29 am) Your comparo is as ridiculous as those comparing the Prius to a base model Corolla. If comfort is the prime importance get the Lexus. If minimizing the total cost of transportation is of prime importance get the Corolla ( or even better a bicycle ). If meeting a happy medium is important then the Prius fits better than most. I had four Camry's before my Prius and each one gave me a pain in the butt and down the leg over long drives. The Camrys were much much quieter but not nearly as comfortable as the Prius is to sit in for long distances....and I'm probably older than you are. |
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| Interesting discussions. Nothing wrong with substituting ethanol for a portion of the fuel. Regardless of the energy balance, it still displaces oil. The main problem is that there are a number of crops that give better energy payback than corn. Still, we MUST replace non-renewable based fuels with renewable ones. Continuing to burn ethanol to make more ethanol is much better than burning oil to MINE more oil that will run out. | |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 27, 2008 12:09 pm) When you coast, do you use the "B" brakes or do you use the normal brakes? I haven't use the "B" brakes because the dealer told me that you only use it down the hill. Well, we don't have to worry about any hill here in Savannah, Ga. Thanks in advance for your help. PRUSA |
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Replying to: rolin (Apr 29, 2008 1:43 pm) |
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Replying to: prusa (May 11, 2008 4:45 am) |
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I purchased a new super white 2008 Prius Package 6 just 1 month ago and absolutely LOVE this car. I first achieved 49 MPG on my 1st tank of gas, and I'm now getting 55 MPG on my 2nd tank of gas. I joined www.priuschat.com and learned new driving techniques at their forum. That's how I was able to get from 49 to 55 MPG now. I highly recommend this site for anyone who owns a Prius. There's a wealth of information there from Prius enthusiasts that would be valuable to any Prius owner. Once my Prius has about 5,000 miles or more on her, I'm sure I'll do much better MPG wise. Also .. you never use the "B" shifter unless you are going downhill to slow down. Shifting to B will actualy waste energy ... it's like shifting to a smaller gear while traveling fast. I read this in the www.priuschat.com forum (link below). All you need to do is pace yourself as you approach traffic in the distance and let your foot off gas to re-charge the battery. The job of "B" mode is to help stop the car, not to save or recover energy. Here's the forum that discusses shifting to "B": http://priuschat.com/forums/newbie-forum/43446-using-engine-b-rake-slowing-metho- d.html Hope this helps! |
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