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Insurance
by krawitzmail
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Apr 20, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: pmanza (Apr 20, 2007 1:07 pm)
On Long Island, insurance for a 17 year-old boy driving 5000 miles per year, with $500 deductible through GEICO costs $3500 for a jalopy having little value and $5000 for a brand new Honda Civic LX.
So the bulk of the costs are to cover the damage he could cause to other people and property.
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Re: Insurance [krawitzmail]
by pmanza
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Apr 20, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: krawitzmail (Apr 20, 2007 2:05 pm)
YIKES!!! And I thought I had it bad here in Calif. I'm paying approx $1200/yr for liability only for my 16 yr old on a 95 Ford Explorer. They said it would be $3500/yr for full coverage ($500 ded) on a new Hyundai Elantra. But $5000!!!!!! Parents have to get a second job to pay for that.
Peggy
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Re: Insurance [pmanza]
by mickeyrom
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Apr 20, 2007 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: pmanza (Apr 20, 2007 2:40 pm)
I would have to get a bicycle if my insurance was anywhere near that high.I carry full coverage with a $1000 deductible on my KIA and just liability on my 97 Chrysler .Thats for 300K,100K liability coverage.My premium for both cars last year? Under $500.
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Re: Toyota Prius Experience [msindallas]
by norskeyman
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Apr 20, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: msindallas (Apr 19, 2007 12:11 pm)
I believe the Prius is as "popular, resale-able and reliable" any of the other cars you mentioned. Probably even more so than those others. According to Consumer Reports, the Prius has the highest customer satisfaction of ANY car on the road. Yes, even higher than all other Toyota AND Lexus vehicles.
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [krawitzmail]
by stevedebi
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Apr 24, 2007 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: krawitzmail (Apr 19, 2007 1:49 am)
"However, I have heard of two issues that might dissuade me from purchasing this car, and I would like current Prius owners to comment on their own experiences.
1. Slow acceleration from 40 MPH to 65 MPH, i.e., accelerating to "highway speed."
2. Loss of traction in snow or gravel causes onboard computer to incorrectly think car is in idle and shut down electric power to steering wheel and brakes."
Can't speak to number 1.
Number 2 was a problem but was fixed in the 2007 model (as I recall - might have been the 2006). The problem was the traction control could not be disabled, and it was protecting the electric engine by shutting the car down instead of allowing a "rocking" technique.
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [stevedebi]
by stevegold
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Apr 24, 2007 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 24, 2007 9:06 am)
I have a 2004. 1. Acceleration is not just good but great at all speeds UNLESS the battery boost is depleted from 5-10 minutes of severe uphill driving like going over a mountain pass. It gets back to normal when you come down the other side and the battery has a chance to recharge.
2. There was a software problem that sounds like what you describe. It got a lot of publicity, thanks to GM and Ford PR firms. The fix was already being implemented when the shit hit the fan. It never happened to me and my computer had been updated a few weeks before as part of a group of TSBs.
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [stevegold]
by stevedebi
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Apr 24, 2007 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: stevegold (Apr 24, 2007 10:04 am)
"There was a software problem that sounds like what you describe. It got a lot of publicity, thanks to GM and Ford PR firms. The fix was already being implemented when the shit hit the fan."
I never saw it from a GM or Ford source. It was reported by someone on this site.
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [stevedebi]
by stevegold
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Apr 24, 2007 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Apr 24, 2007 12:42 pm)
The failure was never attributed to GM or Ford. It just got a lot of newspaper and TV coverage considering there were about a dozen reported incidents out of 200,000+ Prius' on the road at the time.
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2004 Prius Driver w/60K miles
by steve1c
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Apr 27, 2007 (12:31 pm)
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I've put about 60,000 miles on my 2004 Prius, and overall I like the way it accelerates and handles. Mostly desert and mountain pass driving, between Las Vegas and California. I get 45-50 mpg typically, depending on how much I have to run the lights and air conditioner or heater. About 50-50 city-hwy driving ratio. No problems maintaining 75 up & down the mountain grades or dealing with the crazy LA-Vegas friday afternoon free-for-all traffic on the I-15.
My squawks some annoying torque steer when cornering with heavy acceleration; crosswind gust sensitivity (it's a light vehicle, so not unexpected); and a recent (bad) experience with the 12V aux battery (details of which I will post in one of the other forums).
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [stevegold]
by stevedebi
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Apr 27, 2007 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: stevegold (Apr 24, 2007 7:59 pm)
Your original comment: "It got a lot of publicity, thanks to GM and Ford PR firms."
Hence, my clarification on the source of my information (not from the press).
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