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Re: Safety [lostwrench] by jeffyscott
Mar 24, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: lostwrench (Mar 23, 2007 2:13 pm)

As was pointed out these bright line distinctions may mean as little as 1% difference in estimated injury risk.
 
For example looking at a couple of the actual head and chest injury risk numbers that the star rating is based on:
 
Camry driver Head Injury Criterion = 505, Chest = 41
 
Fusion driver Head Injury Criterion = 510, Chest = 43
 
So there is very little difference between Camry and Fusion.
 
(Accord is better than either with 245, 41)
 
The stars make you think Accord = Camry and Fusion is worse than either. But reality is Fusion = Camry and Accord is better than either.
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Re: Safety [lostwrench] by scape2
Mar 24, 2007 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: lostwrench (Mar 23, 2007 2:13 pm)

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=30
 
Is it me or you that is not reading this link right?
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Re: Safety [scape2] by lostwrench
Apr 01, 2007 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: scape2 (Mar 24, 2007 5:06 pm)

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety is not the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The NHTSA uses stars in their safety ratings. The IIHS uses ratings of Good-Acceptable-Marginal-Poor. When you read about Star Ratings, they are from the NHTSA.
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Re: Safety [lostwrench] by akirby
Apr 02, 2007 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: lostwrench (Apr 01, 2007 2:04 pm)

The point is the IIHS retested the 07 job 2 Fusion and updated their ratings while the NHTSA has not. Since the IIHS tests are more stringent than the NHTSA tests it's a reasonable assumption that the NHTSA rating will improve to 5 star when it's retested.
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Still by scape2
Apr 02, 2007 (9:36 am)
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I find it once again kind of strange how some auto sites have not updated their information about how the Fusion has improved on its crashtest ratings. Word must be spread via consumer and sites like this one to educate people faster than what the media does. Just about everyday I am correcting someone who had no idea the Fusion was now better at crashtest ratings. Ford needs to step up and do some advertising of their own. The media jumped on Ford and pasted it all over the news/sites ect.. when the Fusion did not get a good rating.. they should at least to the same when it does!!
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I want a Fusion hybrid by fordenvy
Apr 16, 2007 (12:16 am)
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But it needs to compete with the Camry hybrid, with fuel economy at or above 40 MPG city and highway.
Theres one slated for the `09 model, but I don't know if it will be competive.
We'll see, because they sure did come through on the `08 Ford Escape Hybrid, its competive now.
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Re: I want a Fusion hybrid [fordenvy] by akirby
Apr 16, 2007 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: fordenvy (Apr 16, 2007 12:16 am)

The 2008 (real world) EPA estimates for the Camry Hybrid are 33 city, 34 highway, 34 combined. The Prius drops from 60 mpg to 45. You need to lower your real world expectations for fuel mileage.
 
http://www.fueleconomy.org/feg/calculatorSelectYear.jsp
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THANK YOU AKIRBY. by mschmal
Apr 16, 2007 (9:48 am)
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I was about to post that info myself.
 
Thanks
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I don't like the real world numbers by fordenvy
Apr 16, 2007 (12:57 pm)
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I've always gotten what the EPA used to post, so I'm going by those numbers because they are closer than these new numbers which I disagree with them changing. Also, I didn't put in my post real-world EPA MPG, I just stated the MPG not so from the EPA. People can expect 40MPG from the Camry.
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Apr 17, 2007 (9:42 am)
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