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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Aug 26, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Aug 07, 2007 5:01 am)
GMDAT headquarters are in South Korea and GMDAT is responsible for all the design and engineering of b-class GM cars including the AVEO.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [richard1haines]
by poncho167
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Aug 27, 2007 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: richard1haines (Aug 26, 2007 12:53 pm)
I never said it wasn't. Your argument if you look back was that GM wasn't an American company. My response was that it most certainly is and has always has been. General Motors is a corporation with headquarters based in Detroit, Michigan, United States of America. General Motors owns or has partnerships with other companies throughout the world as does Toyota. Toyota is a Japanese company based in Japan with partnerships with other companies throughout the world.
The 5-door Aveo is part of the GMDAT program with the styling design coming a company in Italy. The newer model sedan is not an Italian design as far as I know.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Aug 27, 2007 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Aug 27, 2007 3:51 am)
Well we're never going to agree on this issue. I hardly think GM is an American company anymore, they do business and have offices all over the globe. Anyway- yes the new AVEO sedan was an inhouse design in Korea at GMDAT with PACTA involved (GM of China), and Australian's Holden division also involved in design and engineering. All future GM B-class cars will be designed/engineered in South Korea at GMDAT. As far as I know, GM USA was NOT involved at all in the new Aveo sedan and HB redesign for 2008.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [richard1haines]
by poncho167
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Aug 28, 2007 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: richard1haines (Aug 27, 2007 9:15 am)
Why would I agree with someones absurd opinion of a company, and someone for whatever reason trying to cheapen the name of a historically great auto empire like General Motors. GM has been doing business all over the globe for over 50-years, maybe longer. They are sure not a Korean, African, or a Honduras company, they are an American company here in the USA doing business all over the globe like many other auto manufactures are doing. BMW is a German company that also has plants throughout the world even hear in the USA. Volkswagon is a German company with plants and partnerships throughout the world and has been building Volkswagons in Mexico since the late 1960's.
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Gentlemen?
by KarenS HOST
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Aug 29, 2007 (10:27 am)
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I had been hoping this would eventually return to talk about the two vehicles in the title, however, it appears it is devolving to another level that simply must stop. If you wish to discuss the merits of GM and where it is going, I suggest you go over to the Auto News Forum.
Thanks for your cooperation.
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