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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Jun 30, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jun 29, 2007 2:46 pm)
GM is not an American owned company - it's an international company with brands Holden, Daewoo, Opel, Vauxhall GMDAT, PACAT and others. Profit will go back to all of GM not just GM of USA with the majority of the profits going back to GMDAT in Korea and PACAT in China.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [richard1haines]
by poncho167
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Jul 07, 2007 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: richard1haines (Jun 30, 2007 5:47 pm)
GM not an American company? Are you new to the automotive world? They are and have always been based in Detroit Michigan. Just because they have other divisions throughout the world and do business internationally doesn't change their nationality. One of their brands is Saab which is and was founded in Sweden. They are still a Swedish company though they share components with other divisions in other companies, countries. Toyota is a Japanese company and have always been based in Japan though they now build elsewhere and share parts with other companies. The name Toyota is Japanese just like Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc.
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xA vs Aveo Air cond.
by topgear1224
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Jul 07, 2007 (9:06 pm)
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here in az it was 116 today
I own an 2007 aveo  and my friend owns a 06 xA and we went to the movies. when we got out of the 2 hr movie.
my aveo always takes about 5 minutes in the summer to cool down even when it has been sitting outside all day during school.
his xA  took and i'm NOT joking 15 minutes to get cool enough to drive that is appalling
on mine i dont even have to roll down the windows he had to put all his down
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Re: xA vs Aveo Air cond. [topgear1224]
by poncho167
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Jul 08, 2007 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: topgear1224 (Jul 07, 2007 9:06 pm)
"his xA took and i'm NOT joking 15 minutes to get cool enough to drive that is appalling."
It sounds like your friend should visit his local dealership to have it checked out. That would not be acceptible to me either.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Aug 04, 2007 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jul 07, 2007 6:38 am)
Sorry but I don't agree with you when you call GM an American company. They have divisions all around the world and design centres in Asia and Europe as well as USA. GM is an internationally run corporation and not a company.
The new AVEO is not American in any shape or form. It was designed at GMDAT in Korea with help from Chinese partership PACAT, Daewoo and Holden of Australia.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Aug 04, 2007 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jul 07, 2007 6:38 am)
GM may be based in USA, but I don't consider it an American company anymore. They are international. Thanks. 
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [richard1haines]
by poncho167
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Aug 07, 2007 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: richard1haines (Aug 04, 2007 9:48 am)
You may not, but GM still has a 75% domestic content overall in the USA according to recent reports-Detroit News and autob--g, and your foreign import Toyota company is 49% domestic content overall in the USA. General Motors started here in America, and their main headquarters is in Detroit, just like your Toyota's main headquarters is in Japan.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [poncho167]
by richard1haines
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Aug 26, 2007 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Aug 07, 2007 6:01 am)
GMDAT headquarters are in South Korea and GMDAT is responsible for all the design and engineering of b-class GM cars including the AVEO.
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Re: Torn between a 2006 Aveo and 2006 Toyota Scion XA [richard1haines]
by poncho167
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Aug 27, 2007 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: richard1haines (Aug 26, 2007 1:53 pm)
I never said it wasn't. Your argument if you look back was that GM wasn't an American company. My response was that it most certainly is and has always has been. General Motors is a corporation with headquarters based in Detroit, Michigan, United States of America. General Motors owns or has partnerships with other companies throughout the world as does Toyota. Toyota is a Japanese company based in Japan with partnerships with other companies throughout the world.
The 5-door Aveo is part of the GMDAT program with the styling design coming a company in Italy. The newer model sedan is not an Italian design as far as I know.
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