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Re: CNG Price by jetboatjohnny
Oct 27, 2006 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: epnfrn (Oct 27, 2006 2:26 pm)

I avoid the CE stations if I can, but when I hang out in the OC it is convienient. I wouldn't even care paying more if it meant I could drive across the country, CNG pumps at all the Arco stations like the one in Garden Grove.
The big factor for me buying my GX was the convienience of a fueling station close to home 24/7, and now happy as hell the price is 1.654.
54 cents difference, something is wrong here!
Feds just kicked suppliers 50c gge minus 12c increase in tax
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Re: CNG Price [jetboatjohnny] by londnr
Oct 28, 2006 (12:27 am)
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Replying to: jetboatjohnny (Oct 27, 2006 4:23 pm)

Don't get me started on Clean Energy! I have posted several of my thoughts about their pricing policies.
 
I live in Garden Grove and have the choice of driving 2 miles to the CE pump in Seal Beach or driving 2 miles to the Gas Co station - which do you think I choose?
 
While out to lunch in Seal Beach a while ago I ran into the gentleman from CE responsible for setting their prices. I mentioned that I avoided their pumps whenever possible because of the noticeable price difference - he got very defensive and said that the Utilities like So Cal Gas and Long Beach Energy (before CE took them over) sold the fuel at below cost and poor, poor CE were only just scraping by.
 
I have never heard such unmitigated BS - how do they respond to the fact that the Utilities got an increase in the price they charge for compression so that they could "better track gasoline prices" yet they are still consitently cheaper than CE?
 
What about the interview I heard on the radio where T. Boone Pickens (CE founder, president and CEO) said there was a glut of Natural Gas - followed by an increase in prices at the pump?
 
I never ever use CE unless I am absolutely stuck, and even then I would rather run to a So Cal Gas pump with my fuel light blazing.
 
I know it's tough but, being as how we have to plan our driving around CNG pumps anyway - let's try and avoid CE pumps whenever possible. It may not change CE's policy, but maybe if the other suppliers are seeing steady sales it will discourage them from handing over their pumps to CE like Long Beach did.
 
BTW where are you filling at $1.654? Garden Grove So Cal is $1.835 as of today.
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CNG Price [londnr] by jetboatjohnny
Oct 28, 2006 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: londnr (Oct 28, 2006 12:27 am)

I fill up at the Riverside Transit Authority (RTA) in Hemet, I live in Hemet and fill in the evenings on my way home. The price was 1.98 in August when I bought my GX and September it went up to 2.054 and now 1.654.
They adjust the price on the first day of every month.
I commute to Brea (143 miles r/t) and usually stay one night in OC and fill in Diamond Bar (SCAQMD Pinnacle 1.85) on my way in, but they are closed on Mondays.
Now my regular fillups cost about 5-6$
I spend about 30$ a week to drive about 620 miles.
I keep a log, if anyone wants it let me know.
J
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Re: CNG Price [londnr] by ngv123
Oct 31, 2006 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: londnr (Oct 28, 2006 12:27 am)

I just filled up at the CE station this morning on my way to work and it is $1.899 per gallon
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I still can't understand the gaping price difference by xpacific
Oct 28, 2006 (6:50 am)
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Can someone explain why we only pay 86 cents/gge up here in Utah (not that I am complaining)? It has to be either:
* Lower NG costs as we are closer to the source
* Higher taxes in CA vs. UT
* or, greedy suppliers in CA?
 
What do you folks in CA pay for NG at home?
We are at $0.85 per therm up here.
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Re: I still can't understand the gaping price difference [xpacific] by musicmann
Oct 29, 2006 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: xpacific (Oct 28, 2006 6:50 am)

Wow! Only $0.86 per gge for CNG at a public station in Utah?! I'm not sure I can explain it either. Probably all three things that you mentioned (Lower NG costs because you are closer to the source, higher taxes in CA vs UT, and greedier suppliers in CA) are all factors. Perhaps also the CNG stations in your area are somehow being subsidized for fueling equipment and/or electricity.
 
For my bill ending in the middle of October, Southern California Gas Company (SoCalGas) charged me $0.76 per therm for the baseline rate, and $0.94 for the over baseline rate. The baseline rate was applied to the first 14 therms, and the over baseline rate was applied to any therms used beyond the first 14. In the winter months, we are allotted more therms in the baseline rate. SoCalGas offers a lower rate to residential customers with a home CNG refueling appliance. This rate is lower than the baseline rate and applied to all the gas that is consumed at that residence (there is no over baseline rate). I do not qualify for the lower rate because I do not yet have a Phill unit in my home. You can see on my other posts, that I'm working on getting the Orange County Fire Authority plan inspection fee waived or reduced first.
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Prices on the rise by jetboatjohnny
Nov 02, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Hemet RTA 2.174 up .52/gge
Diamond Bar 2.23 up .38/gge
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UTAH Prices by bank1avp
Nov 03, 2006 (3:39 pm)
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Was just told by one of my customers that CNG at all the UT stations are now $.76 per gallon. Makes you want to move there doesn't it :0)
 
Murphy
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Re: UTAH Prices [bank1avp] by xpacific
Nov 03, 2006 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Nov 03, 2006 3:39 pm)

Well, er, 73.6 cents per gge in Utah to be precise (Questar just implemented their recently approved rate decrease).
 
Oh, and we can now get the 50 cent per gge rebate on our Phill useage at home (need to have a separate meter installed and on the other hand we have to pay 18.3 cents/gallon in fuel excise taxes, so we net a credit of $.317/gge).
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Re: UTAH Prices [xpacific] by bank1avp
Nov 03, 2006 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: xpacific (Nov 03, 2006 4:44 pm)

I just might move my business up there with how cheap CNG is. :0)If I ever do expand Cedar or SLC will be the first branch I open
 
Murphy

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