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Re: Natural Gas Prices [leon93] by cngmike
Oct 04, 2005 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: leon93 (Oct 03, 2005 2:16 pm)

I know of one person doing this. You have to make the electrical intrinsically safe. you might also have to change the rings. are you thinking of an I.R. or a Bauer?
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [cngmike] by leon93
Oct 04, 2005 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: cngmike (Oct 04, 2005 6:37 am)

Somethink like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AireTex-3-5-CFM-SCUBA-Paintball-Compressor_W0QQitemZ7549835109QQcatego- ryZ106436QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but used.
 
Motor is brashless anyway, so there will be no sparks at all. I think the case of the compressor can be connected to inlet if there is any ring leak.
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [leon93] by cngmike
Oct 05, 2005 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: leon93 (Oct 04, 2005 1:41 pm)

That appears to be a Bauer type compressor. The motor would have to be replaced to an explosion proof and a off skid control panel. It would also need a inlet filter and solinoide valve. At that price I would look for a Fuelmaker C3, FM2 or FM4.
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [vix4] by cngmike
Oct 06, 2005 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: vix4 (Oct 02, 2005 4:01 pm)

As of tTuesday
So Cal Gas 2.50 (Santa Monica)
                 2.39 (Glendale)
Long Beach Gas 2.23
Clean Enrgy 2.49
Reg at Union 76 2.89
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [cngmike] by cngmm
Oct 07, 2005 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: cngmike (Oct 05, 2005 1:29 pm)

I call fuelmaker yesterday - the cheapest compressor is ~$7.000
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [cngmike] by cnguser
Oct 09, 2005 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: cngmike (Oct 06, 2005 6:27 am)

Re: CNG rates listed for Tuesday
Looks like the big oil companies have shown the CNG dealers in Calif how to play rip off the customer.
Doesn't the Calif State PUC set natural gas rates - how could these be so artificially high? If that is attributed to recent natural gas cost increases nationwide, folks might as well switch over and heat their homes with gasoline! Not that more government is the answer, but looks like CNG pricing is out of control there. Hope it can get looked into.
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [cngmm] by cngmike
Oct 10, 2005 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: cngmm (Oct 07, 2005 3:12 pm)

There are several places you can look for A used Fuelmaker At www.ngvc.org under Market place There is some one selling 16 FM2-36 and at http://www.ngv.org/ngv/ngvorg01.nsf/Clearinghouse?readform look under compressor and fueling appliance I believe mel is selling C3s a 2200.00 and FM2s for 2400.00 Take your time and look around find a used Bower the one thing to keep in mind abuot natural gas comperssors are that they have to meet NFPA52 and your local fire code. also you are limited most of the time to 7" of water colum inlet pressure at your home.
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Re: Natural Gas Prices [cnguser] by cngmike
Oct 10, 2005 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: cnguser (Oct 09, 2005 7:38 pm)

The Ca. P.U.C. dose control prices of utilitys. They just granted So. Cal. Gas a 39 cent increase to thier compression rate. I was told Clean Energy had gone to the P.U.C. and lobbied for this because it was an unfair advantage in the market place. (I do not know this for a fact.) The chairman of the board of Clean Energy is T. Boone Pickens is that big oil enough for you. Both So. Cal. Gas And Long Beach Gas are tied to the commity rate by a fixed rate. So thier prices are a set value over what they perchase gas for on the open market. Clean Energy, PIinnacle, ect. are market driven and set thier oun prices.
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Clean enregy priceing by cngmike
Feb 08, 2006 (8:03 am)
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A few years ago I talked to Clean Energy's VP for marketing about pricing. He said it was tied into 87 octane gasoline pricing. He also told me that it's a bargain because use it should be set to premium.
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Re: Clean enregy priceing [cngmike] by londnr
Feb 10, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: cngmike (Feb 08, 2006 8:03 am)

That's interesting - I live close to ENRG's headquarters in Seal Beach and every once in a while I run into the ENRG staff at lunch.
 
During a conversation with an individual ENRG employee (who shall remain nameless) I said that I never used their pumps unless I had to because the price was so high compared to Long Beach and So Cal Gas.
 
I mentioned that the ENRG prices seemed to track gas prices - that didn't go down well at all! I was told in no uncertain terms by my conversation partner, that he set the prices, and they were not linked to gas prices. He went on to "cry" about how unfair it was of the utilities to sell their CNG at "below cost" - he claimed that the CNG from Long Beach and So Cal Gas was subsidized and poor old ENRG had a hard time making a buck in this unfair market.
 
So from that day to this, knowing just how unfairly ENRG has been treated I now use only their pumps - Just kidding.

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