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Replying to: cnguser (Oct 09, 2005 7:38 pm) |
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A few years ago I talked to Clean Energy's VP for marketing about pricing. He said it was tied into 87 octane gasoline pricing. He also told me that it's a bargain because use it should be set to premium.
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Replying to: cngmike (Feb 08, 2006 8:03 am) During a conversation with an individual ENRG employee (who shall remain nameless) I said that I never used their pumps unless I had to because the price was so high compared to Long Beach and So Cal Gas. I mentioned that the ENRG prices seemed to track gas prices - that didn't go down well at all! I was told in no uncertain terms by my conversation partner, that he set the prices, and they were not linked to gas prices. He went on to "cry" about how unfair it was of the utilities to sell their CNG at "below cost" - he claimed that the CNG from Long Beach and So Cal Gas was subsidized and poor old ENRG had a hard time making a buck in this unfair market. So from that day to this, knowing just how unfairly ENRG has been treated I now use only their pumps - Just kidding.
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Replying to: londnr (Feb 10, 2006 9:00 am)  If they do then there will be no stopping what they will charge us. BTW, I know that LBE does not sell below cost and in fact makes money on the station. ENGR is just blowing smoke. Why would the Fountain Valley station be charging 2.049 last month and 2.149 this month when the cost of gas went down by almost $0.030 per gge? Their NOT telling the truth. Later this year the fed hwy tax will go up but there will be a $0.50 credit back from the feds. To the end user that should drop the price by at least $0.40. Let's see if ENGR drops their prices. I bet NOT. The only thing stopping me from installing Phill in at home is that their is NO ROI. But if per chance ENGR did take over the LBE station the ROI is there. I'd love to put in a station somewhere on the 405 and price is below ENGR. Two problems, cost to build the station and you know that ENGR would price their closet station below to try and kill a competting station. FYI, it would cost at least $100,000 to $175,000 to build a station using referbed equipment. |
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Replying to: timon (Feb 12, 2006 7:14 am) PS - I don't know if and when they changed the rules, but I got a transponder for free access to the 91 express lanes for my civic gx about 2 years ago, and use it frequently. You just drive through the regular toll lane, not the 3+ lane. I just went in, brought my registration and clean air decal slip, filled out the special access form, and got the transponder.... |
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Replying to: timon (Feb 12, 2006 7:14 am)
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Replying to: londnr (Apr 17, 2006 2:45 pm) There will be no completion along the 405 they can raise the price to what ever they want to. I bet that you'll see $3.00 per gge soon. Can this be stopped? Maybe since the Long Beach city council has not signed the contract yet, may in 3 weeks, we may be able to put pressure on to stop it. We need to make a mass showing at the city offices and the next city council meeting on the 23rd. If we don't try to stop this now or at least get Long Beach to force Clean Energy to set a fix amount over natural gas cost then get ready to pay $3.00 a gge.
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Replying to: timon (May 22, 2006 8:44 am) First I know that LBE made a profit on the station, maybe not much, but they did make money instead of losing it. Also, now all city owned vehicles will be paying more for CNG, not as much as the public but still over the price that the City buys its natural gas for. I wonder if the contract has taken into consideration the loss of a money making venture, plus the increased cost fueling their fleet with their own resources. I am still mad that a few years ago the Utilities were pushing NGVs, saying that the price of natural gas was so cheap because we have an abundant domestic supply. Now they see the potential of tracking the price of a gallon of gas, when will their greed end? I guess the environment wasn't the real concern after all was it? What do you propose? |
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Natural gas prices on the market hit a one year low this week ,about $ 6.60 / million btu , but the price at long beach energy jumped from $ 1.48 to $1.66. Coincidence ?
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Replying to: lakewood90712 (May 03, 2006 7:24 pm) I suspect that we will know when the change happens as the price will go through the roof, at least compared to LBE's regular pricing. I am not sure what ENRG is currently charging but last time I looked it was at least $2.50. We will also know when the fateful day arrives as ENRG is going to replace the Long Beach pumps with the newer (and in my opinion less effective) type seen at all of their stations. |
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