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#238 of 255 Phill refueling appliance has been recalled by igotgas Apr 04, 2008 (10:46 am)
CP of an eamil I got today first one like this I got in November.   A specific production run of the refueling nozzle used on the Phill refueling appliance has been recalled by the manufacturer.        A recalled nozzle can be identified by the “date code” stamped on the nozzle assembly (please refer to the attached picture). The date code can be found on the nozzle hex nut located next to the black plastic handle. If the date code ends with “YO” it has been recalled and is to be exchanged ASAP.        Could you please verify the date code on the refueling hose nozzle, thank you? Please let us know ASAP, thank you.        Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions or concerns.   FuelMaker Corporation
#239 of 255 PHILL Units ---- by jvenglass Apr 05, 2008 (11:41 am)
Whats the cost of the PHILL unit for your home? and whats the cost of upkeep on the unit?   How much dose it cost to fill a tank up on the Civic GX at home VS a fuel center?   I hear honda rents the Home PHILL units? If so how much and dose the Rent fee cover any up keep?   I'm looking at getting a 08 Civic GX and I'm trying to see what the best way of going about it is?   Thanks. Replies to this message: hondagxsales (Apr 05, 2008 9:08 pm) jvenglass (Apr 06, 2008 2:41 pm) freedml (Dec 13, 2008 5:03 am)
#240 of 255 Re: PHILL Units ---- [jvenglass] by hondagxsales Apr 05, 2008 (9:08 pm)
Replying to: jvenglass (Apr 05, 2008 11:41 am) The unit runs between $3900 and $4300. Upkeep can be quite expensive if the unit needs repair after the warranty period is up. There is no such thing as a repair for less than $1000.   Refueling coasts vary depending on your gas co. SoCal Gas (Sempra Utilities) and PG&E offer discounted rates for home refueling. $1.41 this month, vrs $2.30-$2'84 at the pumps. Check cngprices.com for details about public refueling rates.   Honda now handles the leases on the Phill now. For more info call 310-781-4450 and speak to Christine or Eric. A purchase must be done through Fuelmaker at 866-my-phill. The last warranty program I was aware of was $788 through FM and is worth it's weight in gold for many owners of the unit, as the original warranty is only 12 mo.   One of my Phill customers that has had several problems (but is under warranty still) said that FM told him that there was no extended warranty program anymore. I have yet to confirm this. I have all the print material from FM in the files section of civicgxngv in Yahoo groups, as there is no way to post it here.   I would suggest that the Phill is ideal if you are driving 50-60 miles per day or less. Over 100 miles a day and a Phill is not for you. Get an FMQ2-36 as it is designed to handle those gas volumns and will be cheaper to maintain in the long run. Curtis Replies to this message: jvenglass (Apr 06, 2008 2:41 pm)
#241 of 255 Re: PHILL Units ---- [hondagxsales] by jvenglass Apr 06, 2008 (2:41 pm)
Replying to: hondagxsales (Apr 05, 2008 9:08 pm) What do you think about the leases on the Unit from Honda? would that be a good way to go if you are buying a new GX Civic?   How much more is the FMQ2-36 Unit and are there any rebate or deals on them?   I hear there is a $2000 off from So.Cal. Clean Air or something?   So at home it would be $1.41 plus the cost of power to run the Phill unit?
#242 of 255 Re: Phill installation problems [fbaldwin] by freedml Apr 21, 2008 (9:56 am)
Replying to: fbaldwin (Sep 29, 2006 5:17 pm) I had a similar experience to #143 in City of Los Angeles, except neither the inspector nor his supervisor had ever seen or heard of Phill before. I didn't tell them precisely WHAT I was installing, I just pulled a permit to install a 'gas appliance' and showed them the approval symbols on the manual.
#243 of 255 New Here by thebundo May 03, 2008 (10:53 pm)
Well, I'm new here, but have been lurking. I bought a new GX today at Dublin (CA) Honda. I take delivery Monday. I already have 2 hybrids, an 2008 Ford Escape Hybrid and a 2007 Honda Civic Hybrid. I previously had a 2004 Civic Hybrid. I'm looking forward to this new area of "green". I want to get a home station somehow, and hook it up myself. I'm a contractor, so it's easy for me. Just need to find a unit at a good price, probably a FMQ2-36 Replies to this message: hondagxsales (May 04, 2008 9:52 am) noctes (Dec 12, 2008 10:12 pm)
#244 of 255 Re: New Here [thebundo] by hondagxsales May 04, 2008 (9:52 am)
Replying to: thebundo (May 03, 2008 10:53 pm) A Phill is out of the question for self installers unless you find a used one, which is virtually out of the question. Watch EBay, CraigsList, and cngchat.com's "Marketplace" forum for used FM units. They show up on an infrequent basis, but they do show up. Just avoid the FM-3, as it is no longer supported by Fuelmaker for parts.
#245 of 255 Phill sticky "Air Flow Valve" by fchanes Aug 03, 2008 (9:24 am)
Has anyone had problems with a sticky air flow valve on their Phill unit? Mine is acting up and Fuelmaker says that only a Certified repairman can fix it. They won't sell me one direct. I can easily replace it. Any thoughts on how I can obtain one? Thanks. Replies to this message: freedml (Aug 03, 2008 12:53 pm)
#246 of 255 Re: Phill sticky "Air Flow Valve" [fchanes] by freedml Aug 03, 2008 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: fchanes (Aug 03, 2008 9:24 am) You're sure it's the 'air flow' sensor and not the fan not moving enough air? I've heard of several fan failures but no 'air flow sensor' failures. We located the fan and some less expensive fan substitutes on a www.cngchat.com thread. If it's truly the air flow sensor I would remove it and see if there are any markings or other hints for where it came from. Had my fan failure not been covered under warranty I would have fixed it myself. Not allowing FM dealers to repair certain things in the field or do more economical swaps than their 'installers' is a HUGE mistake by FM.
#247 of 255 Wow... by isellhondas Nov 25, 2008 (3:33 pm)
I came here out of curosity and I've read about 30 of these posts.   I'm scratching my head wondering WHY in the world anybody would buy one of these units??

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