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#225 of 255 Re: Gas Company Approval Denied for PHILL [grngurl] by lakewood90712 Jun 24, 2007 (6:55 am)
Replying to: grngurl (Jun 23, 2007 8:25 am) Kind of strange that the So Cal Gas base in Santa Barbara , the Clean Energy station in S L O , and Fleet's can get a waiver to dispense the "Hot Gas" as motor fuel.    Something smells bad here and the smell is not coming from a home refuel appliance.    Time to call the C.A R.B and then call The "Governator". Maybe the Sacramento Bee and LA Times would like to know about this crap. Replies to this message: allan_gx (Jun 24, 2007 11:44 am)
#226 of 255 Re: Gas Company Approval Denied for PHILL [lakewood90712] by allan_gx Jun 24, 2007 (11:44 am)
Replying to: lakewood90712 (Jun 24, 2007 6:55 am) The chap at CARB said SoCalGas can "mix" their products so the big guys get a gas that meets the CARB standard so it may be that the only exemption was for a fleet user that was willing to have their vehicles examined after some period of use (no idea what it took to get the exemption.)   On the other hand, maybe every CNG station is pumping gas that does not meet the CARB standard. I wonder how to find out the real story.
#227 of 255 Re: Gas Company Approval Denied for PHILL [allan_gx] by grngurl Jun 24, 2007 (8:03 pm)
Replying to: allan_gx (Jun 23, 2007 7:58 pm) I am actively working with my APCB representative here in San Luis Obispo County. He has already contacted American Honda which has confirmed that the 'hot' gas will NOT damage the Honda engines. This is one of the pieces we need to provide CARB to underscore the importance of revising their requirements.   I cannot speak to the contents of the gas being supplied in SoCal. My understanding that it is actually a different composition than that of ours up in Ventura, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo Counties.   I do think it would be helpful to have several of us pursuing the same goal here - that of getting the CARB to revise its requirements. This way, new NGV owners would not have to go through all of this red tape.
#228 of 255 Re: Gas Company Approval Denied for PHILL [grngurl] by lakewood90712 Jun 29, 2007 (6:49 am)
Replying to: grngurl (Jun 23, 2007 8:25 am) The chairman of the CARB was fired this week by the gov. Maybe it is a good time to call the gov's office to get the rule changed on an expedited basis. Replies to this message: allan_gx (Jun 29, 2007 1:33 pm) ohmygas (Oct 02, 2007 12:17 pm)
#229 of 255 Re: Gas Company Approval Denied for PHILL [lakewood90712] by allan_gx Jun 29, 2007 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: lakewood90712 (Jun 29, 2007 6:49 am) I spoke with FuelMaker this morning and it sounds like Honda has provided CARB with documentation that the "hot gas" is ok for the Civic GX. Not sure if anything will happen but at least they are communicating. Replies to this message: ohmygas (Oct 02, 2007 12:17 pm)
#230 of 255 Question about moving an existing Phill install to another location by 99civiccng Jul 10, 2007 (2:22 pm)
Anyone know if an existing install of a Phill system can be moved to another location? My dad has a Phill system and doesn't need/want it anymore. And I'm game. Especially since I can't get anyone at Fuelmaker to return my call about getting a new one installed!   I'm trying to figure out if I can bypass Fuelmaker and just go to an authorized installer (no idea how to get this info, either) and have it installed at my house.   I'm in the same city as my dad so I'm 99% sure my gas meets with CARB regulations Replies to this message: lakewood90712 (Jul 10, 2007 4:56 pm)
#231 of 255 Re: Question about moving an existing Phill install to another location [99civiccng] by lakewood90712 Jul 10, 2007 (4:56 pm)
Replying to: 99civiccng (Jul 10, 2007 2:22 pm) Should be no problem at all. An authorized installer will charge you about $1200 to hang it on the wall and connect to existing gas and electrical outlets , and much more if any additional work is needed.    Any plumbing or Heating contractor can can pull a permit and do the job for a fraction of that cost. Shouldn't take more than 3 hours at $80 - $95 per hour. The permit will not be much, unless you have to deal with the Orange County Fire Authority. Go for it!
#232 of 255 Fill Line Extention for PHILL?? by fchanes Jul 11, 2007 (4:43 pm)
How long can I go on the fill line? I need to run another 10 feet. Is a straight hose available? Do I need to jump through the PHILL hoops to get one? Thanks. Replies to this message: hondagxsales (Jul 11, 2007 9:39 pm) cnguser (Jul 12, 2007 7:35 pm)
#233 of 255 Re: Fill Line Extention for PHILL?? [fchanes] by hondagxsales Jul 11, 2007 (9:39 pm)
Replying to: fchanes (Jul 11, 2007 4:43 pm) The 10' line on the Phill is the only option available. I've spoken to Fuelmaker about this just recently. The only way around it would be unauthorized and dangerous modifications. Curtis

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