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Re: Phill sticky "Air Flow Valve" [fchanes] by freedml
Aug 03, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: fchanes (Aug 03, 2008 9:24 am)

You're sure it's the 'air flow' sensor and not the fan not moving enough air? I've heard of several fan failures but no 'air flow sensor' failures. We located the fan and some less expensive fan substitutes on a www.cngchat.com thread. If it's truly the air flow sensor I would remove it and see if there are any markings or other hints for where it came from. Had my fan failure not been covered under warranty I would have fixed it myself. Not allowing FM dealers to repair certain things in the field or do more economical swaps than their 'installers' is a HUGE mistake by FM.
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Wow... by isellhondas
Nov 25, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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I came here out of curosity and I've read about 30 of these posts.
 
I'm scratching my head wondering WHY in the world anybody would buy one of these units??
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Re: New Here [thebundo] by noctes
Dec 12, 2008 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: thebundo (May 03, 2008 10:53 pm)

I would be interested in knowing how your search for an FMQ-2-36 went. I also have a GX and am looking for an FMQ-2-36. And I'm in your geographic area - PM me if you would be interested in doing a FMQ-2-36 install.
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Re: PHILL Units ---- [jvenglass] by freedml
Dec 13, 2008 (5:03 am)
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Replying to: jvenglass (Apr 05, 2008 11:41 am)

PHILL will not save you money. If you have one at home the fuel will cost you more (maybe a lot more ) than buying it at a station (even a CE station! ). It is strictly for convenience. And, it is so slow that sometimes you will wonder whether it's really convenient after all.
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phill rebuild by roder
Mar 22, 2009 (11:27 am)
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has anyone seen documents on how they rebuild the phill unit? Mine gives occasional error codes, not always the same ones. It also has taken longer to fill, which makes me think the compressor or dryer are going out. Yet it has low hours.
I only want to get it working well enough for my 20 mile a day commute that I have now.
I also smell too much natural gas when it first starts. . .which makes me think the solenoid valve that operates the dryer is going out. Not sure.
 
My unit was filthy dirty from operating outside, makes me wonder why they don't have a air filter on the unit?
 
No I don't want to pay $1000.00 to fix it at this time.
 
photos of inside phill unit:
 
http://ruderod.livejournal.com/181960.html?mode=reply
phill photos
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Re: Phill installation problems [airmar] by blackhawks92
Mar 28, 2009 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: airmar (Sep 25, 2006 2:56 pm)

September of '06? Sheesh. I live in Brea, and I got my Phill in August of '07. Nobody needed an inspection from me, certainly not the installer, Mike Fossler, owner of Doctor Drain plumbing (plumber doctordrain.com). He had me e-mail him some photos of the installation site, came out, and took care of business. He quoted me $1400, but gave me a $200 discount because the installation was so easy. Mike is a man of integrity and charges very reasonably for plumbing work.
 
Months later, when the city repaved our alley, we phoned the city and complained that we wouldn't be able to refuel our car when the alley was being worked on. They sent a fireman to take a look (free of charge), and he was happy with the installation. That's the last I heard from anyone on the subject. In fact, Brea wanted to support alternative fuels so much, they cut us a check for the difference between refueling at home, and refueling at stations while the alley was blocked off.
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Re: phill rebuild [roder] by hondagxsales
Apr 20, 2009 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: roder (Mar 22, 2009 11:27 am)

Fuelmaker has recently been placed into bankruptcy and a sale is being negotiated. To read up on the latest news, go here: http://www.cngchat.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=85.
 
As the unit is not field servicable, you may have a time getting it back into operation without help from someone in the know.
Curtis
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Honda Civic GX by fly737
May 07, 2009 (3:55 pm)
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I just bought a Civic GX and found out that DMV is no longer giving out the HOV (white sticker). Does anyone know if this is true? I called DMV today and asked about the HOV sticker for my car, and that person kept on saying that they are no longer giving sticker for the HYBRID Vehicle (yellow sticker).
 
He kept saying that the maximum numbers had been reach and that they are done with Hybrid. I know that they are done with those Hybrid HOV sticker, BUT what about my Natural Gas? Are they done with Natural Gas Vehicle as well?
 
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Re: Honda Civic GX [fly737] by ikir
May 12, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: fly737 (May 07, 2009 3:55 pm)

To my knowledge the white stickers are still available. I had the same problem when I bought my GX in 2007. Several employees aren't aware of the difference between the white & yellow stickers. The main customer service call center in Sacramento are more familiar with the stickers. When you call the DMV, your area code will direc you to the nearest call center. I believe there is one in Sacramento and one in So. Cal.
 
You should fill out the form and send it to the DMV. Make sure you fill it out correctly. It took about a month from the date I mailed the form until I received the stickers.
 
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg1000.pdf
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Re: Honda Civic GX [ikir] by fly737
May 13, 2009 (10:41 pm)
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Replying to: ikir (May 12, 2009 6:23 pm)

Hey, thanks for the info. I mail it in already, and just hoping that DMV will have one more sticker for my car.

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