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Sometime last year I replaced my front door speakers with Infinity Kappa 62.7i's as allmet33 recommended them. He was spot on with his recommendation as usual, and the improvement in overall frequency response & sound stage was well worth the work. For me I still wanted a wider sound stage and greater clarity in the highs. I installed a pair of infinity reference 1021t' tweeters this weekend and finally got very close to the sound that I wanted. The sound stage is as wide as the interior cabin now, and the center channel no longer dominates with it's fairly dull sound. I intended to replace the factory tweeters which are jbl (infinity owned) units, but wound up mountind the new 1021t's to the door sail in addition to the stock units in the door panels With the kappa's in the doors, thats alot of tweets for sure but certainly not overbearing. I went with the 1021t's because they were silk domes and not metal domes like the kappa's which I thought would be somewhat harsh in such a prominent position up front. Frankly if you're thinking of doing this, the reference 1021t's are good but not overly bright, so if you want bright try thr kappa's. The 2nd set of 62.7i's will be put in the rear doors next weekend. After that, maybe an upgrade for the center dash speaker, although I'm not to sure of the accessability of that unit. Those of you who have added amps and larger subs, and swapped out head units probably have far greater sounding systems. At the end of the day, the Infinity Premium sound system in the 06 - 07 models has it's limitations, but can be modified relatively cheaply for big sound gains.
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Replying to: theblackhole (Mar 23, 2008 2:39 pm) Personally...I would have removed the factory tweeters (or just disconnected them) and placed the aftermarket ones in the location you chose. After all...being higher up is a better location as it's closer to the level of your ears. The Reference tweeters are indeed, a more natural sounding tweeter as compared to the Kappa. I think you'll also hear a difference when you change out the speakers in the rear door as well. However, it's not that big a deal really as those provide rear fill sound more than anything. When you listen to a song, close your eyes...the music SHOULD sound like it wraps around you, but the voice(s) from the singer(s) should sound like they are in front of you. If you fade the music to the front...you'll notice the rear speakers drop out. When you fade it back to the "0" setting, you'll hear the rear speakers come back in, but they are hardly dominating...just providing rear fill. The factory sub...it's not great and it's not terrible. It's pretty decent and actually more than decent depending on how you listen to your music. If you like a lot of bass heavy music, you'll feel that the sub is deficient when it comes to handling really low frequencies. If you like more jazz, county or vocal heavy music, the factory system can sound pretty amazing (for a factory system). However, you are correct...with very little money, the sound quality can be upgraded and the changes can be HUGE.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 24, 2008 6:07 am)
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Replying to: theblackhole (Mar 24, 2008 3:31 pm) The amp is only kicking out 45 watts to all the speakers it's driving (double for the sub since it's a dual voice coil sub). However, when you start changing loads (impedence) at the amp, you change how the amp works. If you create an unstable load, over time...the amp could eventually burn out. Not saying it will happen, but the possibility is there. On the flip side, if it's wired in such a way that the load on the amp is truly stable (4 ohms being optimum) then you don't have to worry. What I would do is play around with it. Unhook the harness from the factory tweeter and insert bared ends of the wire leads for the Reference tweets and see how it sounds. I'm not saying it can't be done or that it won't work. The world of electronics can be funny sometimes. If you're not the type that cranks your music up...then you may never experience any problems with the set up the way you have it now. But...if you do crank it up from time to time...you could end up frying a speaker/tweeter or burn out channels on your amp. If you burn out the amp...you're creating a whole new mess to deal with. |
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Curiosity got the best of me, I had to see how to get to the center channel speaker in the dash of my '06 Azera. I took a thin bladed flat blade screw driver and inserted it between the dash and the grille and lightly pried up. With some light effort, it budged and finally lifted (without breaking). Beneath is a 4" speaker held in by 2 screws (a short handled philips screwdriver makes short work of these). The speaker lifts out effortlessly. I had a 4x6" JBL speaker laying around from a previous install I had done and I wanted to see if the sound quality would improve by putting in place of the factory one. I ran a short length of speaker wire and pushed bared ends into the speaker wire harness and wrapped the other end around the corresponding terminals on the speaker and dropped it in place. Turning on the sound system greeted me with even more clarity in the music as there was now a much more efficient speaker in place. If you have already replaced the door speakers with some aftermarket speakers, do yourself a favor and your system some justice and replace the center channel speaker. The 4x6" speaker I used was just for testing, I'm planning on going with the Infinity Kappa 42.9I. The reason for this choice is the speaker is has a 2 ohm impedence like the factory one it'll replace. Another nice feature is the tweeter can be twisted one way or the other to change it's output by +/- 3 dB (which could help with those that think the center channel is way to domineering). Looking at the speakers, you can simply break off two of the tabs and use the other two to secure it in place after you've connected your wires. Pop the grille back in place and you're good to go. If you're wondering which wire to connect to which terminal...from what I recall, there was a red wire and a dark wire...the red wire is positive (making the other negative). However, if you want to make sure...turn the factory speaker upside down (magnet up) and make a note of which wire is going to which terminal, then when connecting the aftermarket speaker, turn it upside down and connect the wires accordingly. Happy listening!!! 
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Replying to: allmet33 (Aug 20, 2008 9:36 am) above the speaker. Is there enough room so the grill will snap on ??? Also is there room below so the magnet will clear ??? These speaker are only available in pairs so I guess you will end up with a spare
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Replying to: hjc1 (Aug 20, 2008 12:49 pm) Actually my friend, the 1 7/8" space is how much space you really need if you mount the speaker from the top. In other words, dropping it into a speaker location, the magnet extends down 1 7/8". There is PLENTY of room under the dash for the magnet of any aftermarket 4" speaker you put in there, that's hardly an issue in this case. The speaker sits down in a cavity a little bit. The JBL 4x6 speaker would have fit fine, but the frame of the speaker got in the way of the grille going all the way down. The edge of the grille towards you was up maybe an 1/8". The other thing I did was shave off the ring that's on the underside of the grille, if you have a rotary tool with a cut-off wheel, it'll make short work of it. If not a sharp knife and a steady hand will work too. Yeah...I was thinking that very same thing, unless I come across and Azera owner that wants to upgrade then we can go half or I'll hold onto the spare and if someone wants it, they can buy it from me. I suggest looking on Ebay for a good price if you go with the Infinity Kappa. The JBL GTO is about $50/pr. at Sonic Electronix, but the JBL Power and Infinty Kappas are above $80/pr. On Ebay, you might be able to find a really good price for them though. Another note: If you feel the center channel is dominating the front sound stage, then you may opt to go for any 4" speaker that has a 4 ohm impedance as it won't sound as loud as compared to putting in a speaker with a 2 ohm impedance. |
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The Infinity Kappa 42.9i sell for $130/pr + s&h. at Crutchfield. Sonic Electronix has them for $85/pr. + s&h. On Ebay, you can find them for $74/pr. + free s&h. Crutchfield does carry last years model (Kappa 42.7i). there won't be any difference in the performance, but they are selling it for $70/pr + s&h. The JBL P462 (Power Series) are on Ebay for $66/pr. +s&h. The JBL GTO427's are on Ebay for $40/pr. + s&h. On Crutchfield, they sell for $100/pr. |
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Okay, I was bored last night so... I took that JBL GTO6427 4x6" speaker I had pulled from a car I did an install on recently. It was a pair, but one of them had a surround coming apart from the frame. No need to waste a freebie, right? I do think I'll be upgrading to the Infinity Kappa 42.9i at a later date because I like the adjustable tweeter. But the JBL will do nicely for now. Well...I pulled the grille up and really took a look at the mounting area. To mount the 4x6" speaker, it would require me to cut out the mounting brackets for the OEM speaker. Basically...one I start, there's no turning back. With rotary tool in hand, I cut out around each bracket, marked holes using the speaker as my guide and drilled holes (very sturdy plastic in the dash). If you go with a 4" speaker, then you won't have to do any cutting and you shouldn't have to do any drilling, just mount it as the OEM speaker was mounted. I clipped the wire harness from the OEM speaker (which is nothing more than a paper cone mid-driver...  See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com I used some butt connectors to add a 10" piece of speaker wire to make connecting the new speaker a breeze. Slid the new speaker into place and installed the screws with no problem...  See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com As you see, the speaker fits in there with no problem, but the key was...will the grille go back on with no problem? The answer..yes, it looks like it never was taken out, but the sound...OMG, so much cleaner, clearer and much crisper detail. I think having a two-way speaker in the center position makes a world of difference because now you have them across the entire front sound stage (high notes are not limited to only left and right). If you want improved sound, I highly recommend this swap out (if you do the door speakers as well). My next move will be to replace the tweeters; which, as per Harman-Kardon's OEM department, are 4 ohm tweeters. So keep that in mind if you should decide you want to upgrade your tweeters. |
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This forum is very useful. I just had my 07 azera totaled out (got rear-ended, wasn't my fault)....so I went ahead and got another one, used. Unfortunately, it came with the disc changer / cassette combo. I don't want the cassette player, but the dealer said he couldn't help me. I was happy with the 6 disc cd changer I had in my old one. Is anyone aware of how I can get one of these without paying an arm and a leg for it? Anyone willing to do a trade? If that isn't going to be feasible, does anyone have any recommendations for install kits and new head units that fit the 07 azera limited? Thanks in advance!!
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