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#418 of 685 Re: 2002 Altima Engine Failure [keilse]
Jun 08, 2009 (7:07 pm)
Thanks for the reply Sara. He didn't say why he thought I needed a new engine except to say that if we just replaced the head gasket he thought it would eventually still need a new engine. I believe it's the pre cat problem. I think they think that because the oil was 1/2 quart low some engine damage has already occurred and will just get worse. It's been 6 days now and the car is still running great and the oil is still full and clean and the antifreeze level doesn't seen to have dropped any and no lights have come on. In those 6 days I've only driven about 100 miles. I'm supposed to take the car back when the service engine soon light comes on again or when I detect that the oil level is down. They want to see how much oil it's using. If it is the pre cat problem, I have read that the exhaust system is warrantied for 8 yrs/80,000 miles. If this is true, repairs (including a replacement engine) should be covered under warranty. I have always had all maintenance performed at this dealership and even buy my tires from them, so I am hoping they will be on my side and help me in getting Nissan to cover this problem.
#419 of 685 Re: 2002 Altima Engine Failure [brossr]
Jun 08, 2009 (7:55 pm)
That is true however every time that the cats have a problem, material is sucked back into your engine, and eventually, it will ruin the engine forever. Replacing the cats is a bandaid until they fail again, or the failures ultimately lead to the ruin of the engine. I would return the car under the lemon law.....because once you reach over 80,000 miles what will you do when they fail? Then you will be stuck like I am with a shitty car that has the same problem over and over, only now the warranty has run out and the tab is on me....and believe me, new CATS installed from Nissan are around $1,800 - $3,000 to install. Your solution would be great, as it would've been for me as well when I did it if the poor design of the sytem wasn't a factor and the problem hadn't reoccurred. Do you know that prior to the new engine I had ALL cats replaced on my car a total of 6 times....only 4 of the times under warranty? It will kill your wallet my friend but I DO wish the best for you.
#420 of 685 Re: 2002 Altima [keilse]
Jun 09, 2009 (8:47 pm)
From what I have learned about cars in my 19.5 years on earth it is that whenever cars get major redesigns, there are always problems with the first year of that redesigned car.
I didn't say all 3.5 SEs were problem free, I said VIRTUALLY meaning it doenst happen too often if at all. THe problems with the cats are far more common on 2.5 S engines then on 3.5 SEs but they still happen every so often
#421 of 685 Re: 2002 Altima Engine Failure [brossr]
Jun 09, 2009 (8:54 pm)
Yes catalytic converter by law are covered for 80k miles. I have a 2003 Altima 2.5 S which I bought with 57k miles on it, carw as driving fine but I knew something was wrong
The Nissan dealership around the corner diagnosed the car and explained my cat was bad and the engine needed to be replaced becuase it was sucking down oil like crazy
When an Altimas's pre cat breaks down, backflow pressure causes pieces of catalyst to get sucked into the engine, scarring the cylinder walls and wearing out the piston rings.
My car had 61,100 miles on it when I had the motor replaced (under the catalytic converter warranty as that was the cause) all I paid was a few parts which came to $285 after tax.
So if you have a 2002 Altima with 66k miles (shocking since most Altimas hit 100k by their third or fourth year) Take it to your Nissan dealer and chances are they will replace your motor under the cats 80k warranty, your lucky you dont drive so much and you have such low miles on a 7 yr old car (most 02 Altimas Ive seen have at least 150k on them) Go get that motor replaced for free at your nearest nissan dealer
#422 of 685 Re: Replaced Engine - OIL PROBLEM [czander]
Jun 11, 2009 (3:39 pm)
Has there been a class suit against Nissan. I am the owner of a 2002 Altima which has just been diagnosed with engine problem. I am the original owner and have always taken the car to Nissan for the recommended servicing. My car has about 85,000 miles on it. I have been in touch with Nissan but they don't seem willing to acknowledge there are any problems with this model.
#423 of 685 Hating Nissan right now
Jun 22, 2009 (1:28 pm)
I have an '02 Nissan Altima with 130K miles. I've kept in well-maintained by the dealer, but I've been having some engine problems since Aug. 2008. I've taken it back to the dealer on 4 different occasions complaining of the same problem each time (sluggish when I try to accelerate and oil consumption). Each time they've charged me from $325-$1500 to fix something different. Now they are telling me that the catalytic converter failed and caused debris to be sucked into my engine and therefore scoring the inside. Is my only option to have the engine replaced? Nissan USA said that it was not their problem that they did not catch it in time...what a joke.
#424 of 685 Re: Hating Nissan right now [fedfuzz]
Jun 22, 2009 (1:47 pm)
I would definitely try to deal with Nissan regarding an engine replacement. Since you have all the work documented with a dealer, Nissan just may side with you.
#425 of 685 Re: Hating Nissan right now [dmforce]
Jun 22, 2009 (3:35 pm)
I had the same problem with my 02.. Nissan will not side with you.. Take my advice, You are S O L as they say it.. Get the engine or get another car, But whatever you do... Do not buy a Nissan ever again.. This is a very common problem that they ignore..
#426 of 685 Re: Hating Nissan right now [fedfuzz]
Jun 23, 2009 (11:06 pm)
Do you have a 3.5? That is EXACTLY what happened to me and it took me a year of badgering the shit out of Nissan North America Corporate in Tennessee to get any resolve. I think I still have the email and phone number of the person you need to talk to for help. Her name is Lanae. Let me know if you want it. If I were you I would get yourself a frigging lawyer (lemon law) and go at it that way. I HAVE A BRAND NEW ENGINE & CATS THAT WAS REPLACED BY NISSAN AND HAVE DRIVEN IT LESS THAN 8000 miles and I already have the SAME FRIGGIN' problem. I had 118,000 miles when my 1st engine literally seized up because the car had NO OIL in it because Nissan forgot to put it back in after replacing my catalytic converters for the 6th time. And they are the ones that did my oil change not 3 days prior to the engine failing. I was successful in getting Nissan to pay me $14,000 back which was $5000 more than the amount I spent on rental cars and fixing the same probs with the car OVER and OVER. I have another solution for you to avoid this in the future, (that is if you decide to get a new engine)...and it works, and is way cheaper than replacing the cats every other week. I did it in lieu of paying 2500 for all new cats only to have the same prob again. Change the exhaust headers. This will place your catalytic conv in a different position which means that it won't come apart internally like now. Tthe new headers will provide different style pipes that don't have a 3 inch pipe with a 90 degree bend that goes to less than 2 inches in width before it ever hits the resonator and muffler. I took off all my cats and hollowed out the pipes (my Nissan guy recommnded this to me on the QT because he knew the cars were LEMONS)replacing the whole pipe with the bend, including the resonator, with one that is 3 inches wide from end to end. My 3.5 gets better gas mileage than ever now, and burns NO OIL. I still need to replace my headers and put one cat back on, then I am SELLING THE P.O.S. You will also need to get the $5 or $10 02 sensor gizmo that prevents your service engine light coming on. Mine is on right now, but only because there are no cats, and because I need to buy the 02 gizmo. Good luck to you - let me know if you need that Nissan contact info so you can hound the shit out of them and maybe at least get an engine or some cash or both.
Good luck to you, Sara
#427 of 685 Re: See other Nissan dealers [rondhol]
Jun 23, 2009 (11:08 pm)
I took your advice about the replacing the headers and it's 10 times the car! Thanks!