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Ford Freestyle CVT Transmissions

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Re: transmission trouble [saabturboid] by steve_ HOST
Nov 15, 2006 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Nov 15, 2006 9:02 am)

Oh, I bet most of these posts are 400 times as accurate as a French doping lab's paperwork on Tour de France winners.
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Re: transmission trouble [steve_] by arumage
Nov 15, 2006 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2006 9:43 am)

But if it's on the Internet, it must be true.
 
Even if we had a Ford source, they probably couldn't offer us that much proof yet, and even if they could offer us proof, they must not like their job that much... 'cause they'd be fired pretty quick.
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Re: transmission trouble [arumage] by bruneau1
Nov 15, 2006 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: arumage (Nov 15, 2006 10:41 am)

They are going to shut the plant that makes the CVT. Where are the new ones going to come from? Germany? The future of the Freestyle may be in question, but the CVT will be gone. Too bad, I like it.
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Re: transmission trouble [bruneau1] by bobw3
Nov 15, 2006 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Nov 15, 2006 10:51 am)

I like it too, but if they use the 6spd auto that get's at least the same MPG and keeps the RPMs low on the highway then I'd be satisfied.
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Re: transmission trouble [bobw3] by arumage
Nov 15, 2006 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 15, 2006 10:56 am)

I'm betting that mpg numbers will drop to abou 18/25, like the Edge, rather than 20/27, unless they add some valve train (VVT) and fuel system (direct or forced injection) improvements . On the positive side, it would have quicker acceleration, more towing, and more mechanics would be familiar with the technology.
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Re: transmission trouble [arumage] by stevedebi
Nov 15, 2006 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: arumage (Nov 15, 2006 12:02 pm)

"I'm betting that mpg numbers will drop to abou 18/25, like the Edge, rather than 20/27, unless they add some valve train (VVT) and fuel system (direct or forced injection) improvements ."
 
The Edge is heavier than the FS by about 500 lbs (FWD), which would account for the difference in MPG, even with the 6 speed (well, that plus the extra 1/2 liter larger engine).
 
I think a FS with 6 speed would get similar or better MPG than the 3.0L and CVT.
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Re: transmission trouble [stevedebi] by arumage
Nov 16, 2006 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 15, 2006 5:36 pm)

You are right about the Edge being heavier, but it is not by 500lbs and the motor itself is not really much heavier than the 3.0L V6. The FWD Edge weighs in at 4073lbs. while the FWD Freestyle weighs 3959lbs. The engine was created to be a direct replacement for the 3.0L V6 and has nearly the exact same dimensions (lwh). I hope the don't make the D471 too much heavier than the Edge.
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Re: transmission trouble [arumage] by captndp
Nov 16, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: arumage (Nov 16, 2006 4:52 am)

Update on my busted transmission.
 
Took Ford Dearship 2 days to remove the transmission. They have offered to pay for 80% of the costs of replacement (about $5,100). CAnnot give me any cause or reason why the transmission failed and yet the systems check still says "transmission OK".
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Re: transmission trouble [arumage] by stevedebi
Nov 16, 2006 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: arumage (Nov 16, 2006 4:52 am)

Ford hasn't published the Edge specs on their website, but a review I saw indicated the Edge AWD at 4528 pounds (the weight was their biggest complaint on the vehicle). I think that the AWD FS weighs about 4100 lbs. So that's 400 lbs heavier for the Edge. The review was for the AWD, and I find it hard to believe that there would be a 500 lb difference between the Edge FWD and AWD.
 
But I stand by my statement about MPG. Often a larger engine will get similar or better MPG than a smaller engine. Witness the Toyota RAV4, with only 1 MPG separating the two engines at highway speeds...
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Re: transmission trouble [stevedebi] by arumage
Nov 16, 2006 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Nov 16, 2006 12:20 pm)

Everywehre else I've seen lists the AWD Edge's weight at 4282 lbs, which is still too heavy. Was that review in Motor Trend, perhaps? I think the typo-ed when they release the article.
 
I think there is a mpg "sweet spot" where smaller engines are overcome by the weight of the vehicle and start to get less gas mileage. If an engine is to large for the vehicle, you'll get less mpg, and it won't be giving you too many advantages either, other than making the vehicle faster.

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