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Ford Freestyle, Transmission, SUV
#234 of 437 Re: 06 FORD FREESTYLE [icedragon]
Mar 19, 2010 (7:33 am)
"The trans problem is the 3 shafts in the trans. Also have the same problem and was told they are 800.00 a piece and have to be ordered. Ford knew about this problem and thinks it is a joke. Everyone should get together and file a class action law suit against ford. "
I'm am truly sorry for those reporting in this Forum that their transmissions failed, but I don't think any lawyer would touch this one. All Ford would have to do is point to the CU statistics showing that the FS CVT has a better reliability rating than conventional transmissions. End of case.
Any transmission can have parts go bad, perhaps during fabrication or assembly. Ford issued a free brake fix when it discovered that the pads had gotten wet in storage, resulting in premature wear. So they do respond when they know there was a problem in the vehicle. But there has been no wide-spread transmission failures among the FS fleet. We need to remember that this forum will attract those with problems, and is not representative of the entire FS community. I, for example, did not have any trouble with my 2006 FS.
I'd still be mad if I HAD encountered any problems, and maybe I would not have bought another Ford product, but there it is, numbers don't lie.
#235 of 437 Re: 06 FORD FREESTYLE [stevedebi]
Mar 19, 2010 (3:58 pm)
I agree that trans problems are horrible. However, it is true that the percentage of trans failures in Freestyles is lower than average across all 2005-2007 makes/models for comparison. The only way a class action lawsuit can succeed is if the failure percentage is high enough and Ford had a design flaw. I don't think thats the case here. I still would like to know what makes some of them fail. I'm an engineer so I have an odd curiousity about things like that.
When icedragon says the problem is the 3 shafts in the CVT tranny, do you know what is going on there? Are the shafts themselves breaking? Metal parts can fail when a few (small percentage) have metallurgical flaws introduced during forging or casting. I wish we had a good failure analysis on any weaknesses the tranny might have.
#236 of 437 Ford CVT Transmission
Apr 19, 2010 (2:15 pm)
I also have a 2006 freestyle and my trans went out at 64000 miles ,4000 miles after extended warranaty ran out. I have seen all the posts and i agree ford should take care of this problem.Then 2 weeks after mine went out my mother-inlaws neighbors went out at 59000 miles.There must be a problem since Ford stopped putting in cvt trans in there 07 models. I'm in for a class action if we can get enough owners.
#237 of 437 Re: Ford CVT Transmission [zipper4]
Apr 19, 2010 (2:36 pm)
"I also have a 2006 freestyle and my trans went out at 64000 miles ,4000 miles after extended warranaty ran out. I have seen all the posts and i agree ford should take care of this problem.Then 2 weeks after mine went out my mother-inlaws neighbors went out at 59000 miles.There must be a problem since Ford stopped putting in cvt trans in there 07 models. I'm in for a class action if we can get enough owners. "
Did you read the entire thread?
- They stopped putting in the CVT transmissions because they developed a cheaper 6 speed transmission in cooperation with GM.
- The CVT has been more reliable than conventional transmission of the same years, according to Consumer Reports. This makes a successful lawsuit unlikely.
#238 of 437 Re: CALLING ALL CVT ISSUES... [nutabug]
May 04, 2010 (8:16 am)
06 Freestyle going into dealership this week, stalling, lunging, shifting rough. Wrench light is on and off. After reading a few forum sights, it sounds like its going to be the transmission (so many complaints on the CVT). Had throttle body replaced last year after it kept lunging. Called Ford today to be on record before I go into the dealership, will reply if they say its the transmission.
We have an 04 PT Cruiser, had 98 Camry, and 89 Jeep Cherokee all with over 100,000 miles and never had to replace the transmission, not buying a Ford again.
#239 of 437 Re: Ford CVT Transmission [stevedebi]
May 11, 2010 (8:04 pm)
I have a 2006 Frestyle FWD with 110200 miles. i purchased the vehicle used and it develop a loud noise on the trans. I took the vehicle to ford and they dignosed to be a main bearing or imput shaft but that it would take complete dissasmble of the trans to complete(about 900 dollars). for a soft rebuilt with no hard parts 2800.00 dollars and for a remanufactured one 5600 dollars, well i paid for the vehicle 6600.00 dollars hehehe. I went to a shop that i know since i am in the use car business and they charged for labor 900. plus parts and they show me what had gone bad on the trans, bearing and output shaft with the planetary. I purchased with a dealer discount the planetary 487.00 dollars, rebuilt kit with steels included 225.00, 10 qts of fluid and bang brand new transmission. $1700.00 dollars they even serviced my a/c for the price and detailed the car since one of their mechanics painted a bumper and got overspray on mine.
i have the part that went bad and also i have documents of parts that ford had to dispose in the past due to improper packaging and some of those parts ended in transmission, so maybe after all ford has made mistakes and we are paying for it.
if anyone wants their service to fix their transmission let me know. you can ship it to them and they will fix it and ship to you. also that upper torque mount that breaks on all the cars but just the rubber soon i am going to have an idependent manufacturer make just the bushing for a fraction of what the entire mount cost.
keep in touch.
#240 of 437 Re: CVT fluid change [bobw3]
May 25, 2010 (5:00 am)
Well, my FS has 128,000 miles and I still LOVE the CVT. Maybe we are living on borrowed time, but I really like the CVT technology.
#241 of 437 Re: CVT fluid change [daire]
May 25, 2010 (6:38 am)
Nice that your transmissions has remained solid for you.
For those of us that have been put in dangerous situations because of tranmission failures,....we're not so thrilled at this particular technology.
#242 of 437 Re: CVT fluid change [daire]
May 26, 2010 (6:59 am)
daire said: "Maybe we are living on borrowed time, but I really like the CVT technology."
Every transmission, of all kinds, CVT or not, has us living on borrowed time. There is always a chance that a regular transmission (aka, "conventional" automatic) will fail, too. I've seen them do it a lot. Take some solace in the fact that our particular CVT fails less often than conventional automatics.
#243 of 437 Re: CVT fluid change [sinder]
May 26, 2010 (7:09 am)
sinder, Your particular failures are real and sad, not to be dismissed. I hope you will just admit that you are not completely safe with any kind of automatic transmission. ..... My story: I was merging into L.A. traffic one day with a car and the conventional automatic just disengaged, dropped out of gear, quitting right in the middle of an acceleration attempt to merge, putting me in danger. Now, do I say that I'm not "thrilled at this particular (in this case a conventional automatic) technology", as you put it above, or do I admit the truth and say that there is a chance bad things will happen, and its a roll of the dice every day with anything to do with a car. All you can do when choosing a car is to pick one with a lower chance of failure, thats all, and the Freestyle has a CVT with a lower chance of failure.
I recommend the book: "Super Crunchers: Why Thinking-By-Numbers is the New Way To Be Smart " to explain Bayesian logic and common sense thinking about statistics and odds so that we make sound decisions in life.