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Ford Freestyle, Transmission, SUV
#194 of 437 Megatronic Valve Body - CVT
Sep 14, 2009 (9:45 am)
Just some additional fuel to the fire...
We're three payments away from being out of car debt on a 2006 Freestyle. It is almost four years old with 59,000 miles. We have gotten the "idiot" wrench and check engine lights to come on. This has happened not more than ten times. The warning lights go away once the car is turned off, which made it difficult to follow up on. The last few times the car's CVT seemed to slip into neutral when travelling at 60-70 mph. RPMs soar and vehicle cannot keep speed. This caught our attention.
Took it into dealer... One hour later, we get the good news bad news. Good news is that the whole transmission does not have to be replaced for $5000. Bad news is that it will be $1700. This was delivered as if we needed a $30 oil change.
Decided to take it to another dealer to get a 2nd opinion. This dealer is where we have bought cars for last 30 years (probably 25+ cars), but now has new ownership. After three hours, same diagnosis, but delivered better from service department. So, I decide to talk to sales to see what I could get on a trade in. I told sales about the CVT diagnosis and to make me a great offer (as this could be the last Ford that I ever buy brand new). Sales came back with $2500 (net of my last three payments). Needless to say, I blew a gasket! I looked the sales guy in the eye and said why should I buy another Ford product? After four years of paying off my Freestyle, I am left with $2500. There was a long period of silence. He said that I should have bought the extended warranty! Ya think...
Keeping my fingers crossed, but car has driven well since. Any advice out there?
#195 of 437 Re: Megatronic Valve Body - CVT [dave_o]
Sep 14, 2009 (12:08 pm)
If you've been happy with the car pay the $1700 and keep it. Things break. It's a bummer when the expensive things break.
#196 of 437 Re: Megatronic Valve Body - CVT [dave_o]
Sep 14, 2009 (1:54 pm)
Quick correction: "Megatronic" should be spelled "mechatronic". Also, keep in mind that the wrench light, also called "MFIL" or "engine light" by some, saves the malfunction codes inside the car's internal engine computer when you turn the car off, so a history is available to your mechanic even though the light might not appear any more.
My vote: Keep the car. Fix it for $1700. Cars do break. Consumer Reports says our Freestyles fail less often than the average. The $2500 offer for your car was intended to be a starting negotiation for your car, since the sales team is in business to make as much money as possible. The actual worth of your Freestyle is somewhere around $13,000, U.S. dollars.
#197 of 437 Re: Megatronic Valve Body - CVT [coldcranker]
Sep 14, 2009 (2:40 pm)
Thanks. I should negotiate the most miles/years with the CVT fix. One dealership offered one year/12,000 miles. Do you think that I could get more one the warranty of their work? Do you think that when I pay off the car, Ford may send me an extended warranty offer that I should buy?
#198 of 437 Re: Megatronic Valve Body - CVT [dave_o]
Sep 28, 2009 (10:39 am)
If I were you I'd just pay the $1700 and then if you otherwise satisfied with the car then keep it. If not, you should be able to sell it privately for about $10,000. You'll always get ripped off during a trade.
Also, I'm not sure what you paid for the Freestyle initially, but if you paid $28,000 you can think of the $1700 as an initial cost, so would it have been worth $29,700 for the car?
And if you paid $1200 for an extended warranty to get the repair for free, you're still only out the difference or about $500.
Not that this will help much, but something to think about. My case is just the opposite.
#199 of 437 Transmission...gone
Oct 19, 2009 (2:14 pm)
I have a 2007 freestyle FWD - Year 1, replace tires, replace rear brakes - all special order! Now, i need a new transmission - $5,600, out of warranty. I will never buy another Ford again.
#200 of 437 Re: Ford Freestyle CVT Transmissions [steve_]
Oct 22, 2009 (4:41 pm)
i have a 2005 awd freestyle. I had the transmission fluid changed at 106,000 miles. Turns out the shop that did it used mercron 5 fluid not the "special fluid" that the dealer now tells me they should have used. now my transmission is slipping and i am being told i need a new transmission. The shop that did the flush says the fluid they used is correct. The dealer says only the kind specially made for cvt can be used. who is correct?
#201 of 437 Re: Ford Freestyle CVT Transmissions [tassds70503]
Oct 23, 2009 (4:20 am)
It looks like the dealer is correct. CVT takes a very specific Ford recommended fluid.
#202 of 437 Re: Ford Freestyle CVT Transmissions [tassds70503]
Oct 23, 2009 (9:55 am)
The CVT uses only Ford fluid and should not be flushed. If your dealer can certify that the shop used the wrong fluid, you should have some recourse.,
#203 of 437 Re: Ford Freestyle CVT Transmissions [tassds70503]
Oct 23, 2009 (6:23 pm)
Only a Ford dealership should do a CVT service. Its every 60,000 miles regardless of time. Even then, you might have to "remind" them that they should only change the FT-178 filter, and not the pan filter. And, no flushing is ever done on the CVT. Special fluid only, never Mercon or Dexron, thats for sure.
I wonder if the transmission shop will own up to their mistake, since a new transmission CVT is about $5,000.