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Re: Update. [bellaspop] by drewmimi
Oct 14, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: bellaspop (Oct 13, 2008 4:01 pm)

With only 28,000, it's still under warranty, but now I can't trust the car. In Iowa, the lemon law qualifies the first 24,000 with the first owner. I surpassed that by 887 miles. Also the car is upside down, so I doubt even if Ford offered me the moon, I wouldn't come out ahead.
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Re: Update. [drewmimi] by bellaspop
Oct 15, 2008 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: drewmimi (Oct 14, 2008 1:23 pm)

Yeah I can empathize with the trust issue. I've had to bum a few rides over the past two weeks and everyone says buying any car is a crapshoot. I kept reading about how Ford was making such and effort to improve the quality of their vehicles... We're going to cut our losses and start shopping this weekend - for a Honda. I commute 50 miles round trip daily and I take my two daughters to school as part of my trip. We need a car that's going to hold up for more than 57,000 miles!
 
Again I wish you the best.
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Finally by drewmimi
Oct 16, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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Ford has decided to replace the transmission.
 
Apparently the 2005 & 2006 CVT had issues, where the later versions seem to be holding up. Anxiously awaiting a "fixed" car!!
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2006 Limited AWD by vrm
Nov 30, 2008 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: drewmimi (Oct 16, 2008 4:48 pm)

Folks,
I am in the market to buy a 2006 Limited AWD. I browsed this forum and am concerned about all the CVT questions/issues.
 
Do the 2006 models suffer from any known CVT issues? Did Ford make any changes to the 2007 model?
 
Thanks!
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It's fixed by drewmimi
Nov 30, 2008 (7:13 pm)
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My Ford Dealer was finally given permission to replace my CVT with a new transmission. I have an AWD 2006 SEL.
 
It appears that there may be a dirty little secret about the CVT-you either have a great transmission or get one like I had. Thank goodness I still had warranty and my dealer was persistent.
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Re: 2006 Limited AWD [vrm] by coldcranker
Dec 01, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: vrm (Nov 30, 2008 1:51 pm)

vrm said "I browsed this forum and am concerned about all the CVT questions/issues. "
 
The CVT is more reliable than the average of all automatic transmissions out there in the same model years, according to surveys done by Consumer Reports over thousands of owners. A fewer percentage of all Freestyle CVTs go bad than the average automatic transmission on the road for the '05 to '07 model years. My '05 Freestyle has had zero problems, but thats just one case. Thats the important point: A statistical sample of one is no good, but a big survey tells the whole story regarding your chance of failure.
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Re: It's fixed [drewmimi] by coldcranker
Dec 01, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: drewmimi (Nov 30, 2008 7:13 pm)

dremimi said: ...."secret about the CVT-you either have a great transmission or get one like I had. "
 
Yes, either one will break or it won't. Thats the way it always goes with all cars on the road. The Freestyle with CVT is no exception. Cars carry a certain risk. The risk of failure for a Freestyle CVT is less than other automatic transmissions according to a survey.
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Re: 2006 Limited AWD [coldcranker] by vrm
Dec 01, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 01, 2008 7:41 am)

Thanks for your response.
 
1) Did Ford make any changes to the 2007 model? In terms of reliability, am I better off buying a 2007 vs. 2006?
 
2) What type of transmission does the 2008 Taurus X use? Is there any data to indicate this is better than the CVT used in the 05 to 07 models?
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Re: 2006 Limited AWD [vrm] by coldcranker
Dec 01, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: vrm (Dec 01, 2008 8:04 am)

In response to vrm's message above: I don't know if Ford changed much if anything in the ZF-designed CVT transmission during its 3-year Freestyle run. The '08 TaurusX uses a 6-speed transmission jointly developed with General Motors. GM is known for good transmissions, and I've heard good things about the 6-speed. The data is too new to really get a good reading yet (not enough survey responses yet). That 6-speed is good, essentially the same one used in the GMC Acadia, Chevy Traverse, Ford Edge, and Ford Flex, among others. The 6-speed is smoothe, and doesn't require the 60,000 mile maintenance stop that the CVT does, as you don't have to change the fluid in the 6-speed until 100,000 miles.
 
One problem I have with the '08 TaurusX with the newer more powerful V6 and 6-speed transmission is that fuel economy is worse than in my '05 Freestyle with the CVT. Another reason I like the CVT Freestyle better is that it effectively is an infinite speed transmission, always choosing the optimal ratio for best fuel economy and power demand. Fantastic up and down mountains/hills. The 6-speed approximates that task pretty well, but you can still feel the shifts and relative mechanical violence inside the 6-speed compared to the CVT. Nissan (Murano, Altima, Maxima, etc.) uses a CVT and advertises the absence of jerkiness, called "shift shock" in the parlance. The Freestyle CVT, made by ZF, is similar to the CVTs found in MiniCoopers and Audis.
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Re: 2006 Limited AWD [coldcranker] by carstenb
Dec 01, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Dec 01, 2008 8:48 am)

I own an 05 FS Limited FWD since August 05 (47k miles, no real problems so far) and drove a rental 2008 TX for 2.5 weeks and 2000mls during the summer holiday from San Fran to Seattle. I would always prefer the CVT over the 6-spd. I didn't like how the 6spd permanently shifts up and down and i did not feel any of the additional power the 3.5l engine has. I had the impression it was all soaked up by the 6-spd transmission. Fuel economy was indeed worse but of course i don't have a direct comparison. I also didn't like the softer suspension set-up of the TX. Still a great car though but i really missed the CVT.
 
Carsten

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