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Surging of acceleration
by ct2ct
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Jul 22, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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I have an 06 Freestyle-had to have the entire engine replaced at cost of 6000 bucks-long story. However, now while sitting idle for a short period of time, maybe 3-5 minutes or more, with A/C on, the engine revs and if i don't have a solid foot on the brake, the car will dangerously lurch forward. Anyone else had this issue? I would get rid of this car, if i wasn't upside down in it. NOthing but problems. Thanks for any help. 
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Re: any advice? [bestwilke]
by baethke
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Jul 23, 2008 (3:25 am)
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Replying to: bestwilke (Jul 22, 2008 5:39 pm)
You should get better gas mileage with a CVT. As long as you are comparing it to use with the same size engine. But ford has had alot of problems with there CVT. But over all you will do better on long trips with it.
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Re: Surging of acceleration [ct2ct]
by carstenb
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Jul 23, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: ct2ct (Jul 22, 2008 8:55 pm)
the a/c needs some extra power from the generator hence it revs up. you are aware of the P position of the shift lever 
Carsten
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Re: any advice? [baethke]
by coldcranker
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Jul 24, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: baethke (Jul 23, 2008 3:25 am)
The Freestyle CVT gets average reliability scores from Consumer Report's surveys. Some cars have less reliable automatic transmissions, and some cars have more reliable automatic transmissions. If you zero in on one owner and they happen to have had trouble with their CVT, then you can't say the entire fleet has the same problems on average. They are a sample-size of one.
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Re: Surging of acceleration [carstenb]
by bruneau1
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Jul 24, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: carstenb (Jul 23, 2008 7:09 am)
The ac does not cause surging. If everything is working properly, the computer will maintain the same rpms with or without the ac. Of course, use of the ac does consume some power.
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Re: any advice? [coldcranker]
by baethke
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Jul 24, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 24, 2008 10:33 am)
If it is such a small group then Ford would still be using the CVT.
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CVT too expensive to make compared to alternativesRe: any advice? [baethke]
by coldcranker
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Jul 24, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: baethke (Jul 24, 2008 4:29 pm)
Actually, the CVT is not being used by Ford because it is too expensive to make compared to a newly available 6-speed. The main steel belt on the CVT is a German ZF part that costs too much, as well as some other parts on it. Ford formed a new deal with GM to jointly develop a new 6-speed transmission recently, sharing the development costs with each other to reduce costs. The 6-speed is slightly cheaper to manufacture and very good.
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Re: Surging of acceleration [ct2ct]
by apoind1
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Jul 27, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: ct2ct (Jul 22, 2008 8:55 pm)
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday for the first time. I put the car in reverse, then had to slam on the brake...as the engine rev-ed very fast. It did it twice in a row. I had no problems going forward...and haven't tried reverse again, but will be taking it into the shop tomorrow. We have less than 30,000 miles on it. This is actually our first problem with the vehicle...but what a scary one! That's why I decided to get online and see if others have had it.
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NHTSA Recall for Problem...Re: Surging of acceleration [apoind1]
by coldcranker
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Jul 27, 2008 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: apoind1 (Jul 27, 2008 12:25 pm)
apoind1: Report this to the government NHTSA and they might make Ford fix this problem with a recall notice. The website is: Report to the NHTSA click here
Consider that the surging might be due to the accelerator pedual sensor (transducer) sending signals to the engine to "go" when it shouldn't. The Freestyle is a throttle-by-wire type, with no mechanical linkage as in most other cars. See jrmust post with accelerator pedal problem
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Re: any advice? [bestwilke]
by coldcranker
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Jul 29, 2008 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: bestwilke (Jul 22, 2008 5:39 pm)
bestwilke,
I just checked the latest surveys from Consumer Reports (April '08 edition at the library) and the Freestyle CVT is above average in reliability. The engine was also above average, the old Duratec 3.0. The Ford 500 sedan, which used the same CVT in about half of them, was also above average.
Also, you asked about fuel economy in the Freestyle vs. TaurusX: Freestyle easily beats it.
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