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#8 of 50 six speed in 2007 STS ? ? ? Re: STS Quality [sls002] by rayainsw May 02, 2006 (8:04 am)
Replying to: sls002 (May 02, 2006 6:14 am) Since many (most?) of the GM cars with few changes for 2007 (CTS, Corvette, others) have their ordering guides out, I cling to hope that the STS (non-V-s, with no ordering guide yet posted) will (also) have the six speed automatic added.   Though one could certainly argue that the CTS (with "only" 6 cylinder motors) might benefit more in performance, and I was certainly hoping for the six speed there as well, I suppose it is possible that the RWD six speed might be seen as the ‘most premium’ component, and appropriate for the most premium model = STS.   We’ll see . . .   - Ray Whishin’ & hopein’ . . .
#9 of 50 Re: STS Quality [sls002] by baltoman May 02, 2006 (8:19 am)
Replying to: sls002 (May 02, 2006 6:14 am) Per GM's Strasbourg website on May 2 2006:   "The Strasbourg site provides automatic transmissions to a number of high level external customers, such as BMW, Land Rover, Opel and Cadillac"   I believe the 6 speed is not yet available to any but Cadillac and Corvette until production ramps. Replies to this message: rayainsw (May 02, 2006 8:34 am) sls002 (May 02, 2006 8:41 am) baltoman (May 03, 2006 7:39 am) sls002 (May 04, 2006 6:10 am)
#10 of 50 six speed autom avail . . .Re: STS Quality [baltoman] by rayainsw May 02, 2006 (8:34 am)
Replying to: baltoman (May 02, 2006 8:19 am) (Outside the Corvette & Caddy) It is also listed as available for the 2007 Yukon Danali:   "MYC Transmission, 6-speed automatic, heavy-duty, electronically controlled with overdrive, tow/haul mode and tap up/tap down shifting"   - Ray NOT currently in need of such a large Sport Ute . .
#11 of 50 Re: STS Quality [baltoman] by sls002 May 02, 2006 (8:41 am)
Replying to: baltoman (May 02, 2006 8:19 am) If you check with the BMW website you will find that all of their cars and trucks (3-series, X-3, X-5, 5-series...) have six (6) speed automatics only. At one time in the dead past GM's 5 speed automatic was used at BMW, but not now. Replies to this message: baltoman (May 03, 2006 7:39 am) sls002 (May 04, 2006 6:10 am)
#12 of 50 Re: STS Quality [sls002] by baltoman May 03, 2006 (7:39 am)
Replying to: sls002 (May 02, 2006 8:41 am) I'm sure you are correct about USA models.   But my point had to do with the quality of the STS - that high end autos such as the BMW use(d) the same GM designed and manufactured tranny.   Back to the "does BMW still use the GM tranny"...   Pls be aware that in Europe, the Z4, among others, is available w/ your choice of manual or 5 speed automatics.   From the Ireland BMW web site: "In addition to a choice of 5- and 6-speed manual transmissions, the BMW Z4 also offers the option of 5-speed automatic transmission..."   Looks like everyone is having problems getting enough 6 speeds for every model in every market. Consumers obviously want them with the cost of petrol so high.   I'm sure every high end auto will move to 6 or 7 speed trannys as soon as possible. Replies to this message: sls002 (May 04, 2006 6:10 am)
#13 of 50 Re: STS Quality [baltoman] by sls002 May 04, 2006 (6:10 am)
Replying to: baltoman (May 03, 2006 7:39 am) I do not think that BMW equips their car in Europe with a different transmission than the ones that are sent to the USA. The Z4 on the international site is shown to offer a 6 speed automatic only.   The history of BMW using a GM automatic dates back to when they were using a ZF automatic and there were too many problems with those transmissions. So, BMW asked GM for a transmission, and started with a 4 speed, but this was upgraded to the 5 speed that GM has been using in the RWD sigma Cadillacs. I think that ZF has returned to supply BMW with a 6 speed automatic. I suppose that BMW has made sure that the new ZF transmission will be reliable.   GM is correct in that the 5 speed was used by BMW, but the proper term is "was", not "is".
#14 of 50 Re: STS Quality [cumptrnrd] by bigmike5 May 10, 2006 (10:55 am)
Replying to: cumptrnrd (May 01, 2006 3:27 pm) Love the Northstar. If they are using the engine that is in my wife's 00 Eldorado ESC in the Lucerne, then I think it is one of the best decisions they ever made. No oil burn whatsoever, and her Eldorado gets [no bull] 32 mpg on the highway, and about 23-24 on around town driving. We had one issue with crankshaft sensors that were replaced under warranty. [It may have been a common problem because the svc. tech diagnosed it as soon as I told him the problem symtoms--stalling at a light-- but nothing else in five years. Gets better gas mileage by far than my 6 cyl. Chrysler 300M, and also just edges out my 04 Vette which gets about 30 mpg at highway speeds under 70. The fact that a Northstar was going into the Lucerne piqued my interest, but the car design is so bland I have not driven one, and will probably go for an STS first.
#15 of 50 2002 Seville headaches by drkforce Jan 10, 2007 (3:46 pm)
My wife and I purchased a used 2002 STS with approx 52,000 a year ago. Since then the check tire pressure is always on even after manually checking each tire against the man. specs, the auto. windshield wipers no longer come on when it rains, it vibrates at exactly 60mph but stops at 65mph and it continually leakes oil even after paying to have a gasket replaced which required the engine pulled out in order to get to the gasket. Now the 6 disk CD changer has gone on the blink. Is this what is to be expected from Cadillac? I've gone to the dealer and been told that they either don't know whats wrong with it and even if they did none of it would be covered under the extended warranty we purchased.   Any suggestions, constructive comments, ideas or anything else that may assist in getting this car to the level that I thought cadillacs should be at? Replies to this message: dmathews3 (Feb 25, 2007 8:30 am) ohgeez (Feb 25, 2007 5:10 pm) mediapusher (Apr 05, 2007 2:35 pm)
#16 of 50 Seville headaches by ohgeez Feb 24, 2007 (6:18 pm)
Amazing, a few years back I owned a 94 STS and did some posting, nothing has change with Cadillac. Chronic vibration, oil leaks, wobble handling. I just don't get it, GM makes an excellent car like Pontiac GP or the Impala then they fail with Cadillac by giving us junk at double the price. Replies to this message: dmathews3 (Feb 25, 2007 8:31 am)
#17 of 50 Re: 2002 Seville headaches [drkforce] by dmathews3 Feb 25, 2007 (8:30 am)
Replying to: drkforce (Jan 10, 2007 3:46 pm) First off you can't blame Cadillac for problems with a used car. How do you know that this vehicle was treated right. It could have been used, abused, and misused. I once sold a 76 Ford truck to a Olds dealer on a new 98. The following spring I came across the same truck on a sod farm. Guy said the dealer said he bought it from a lady who's husband had died suddenly. I said, guess what, I'm still alive. I have had 4 STS's, my buddy 2, my dad one and none of them have had the kinds of problems you are talking about. My 99 had a short in the main wire harness and that was fixed and only problem. None of the above ones have had a problem that put it in the shop for over night. Mostly just growing pains. I can remember a road test in one of the car mags that was complaining about a Lexus they were testing that everytime they parked it they would come back and the sunroof was open the windows were down or going up and down on their own. Also got wet inside a couple times. Seems Lexus could find nothing wrong with it. When you buy used it a big gamble.

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