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2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift

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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [backy] by lhanson
Jul 28, 2007 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 11:46 am)

I rarely see more than 10 Yarii in stock at the 3 Memphis dealers and they are rarely listed in their sale ads. Currently Wolfchase shows 5 in stock, Performance 4 in stock and Chuck Hutton 0 in stock.
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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [lhanson] by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 28, 2007 5:16 pm)

I've never seen many Yarii in stock at my local dealer either. Less than 10 cars is not many, days-sales wise.
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ttai by bottgers
Jul 28, 2007 (6:33 pm)
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As you are finding out, there are a few avid Korean car fanatics in here and they will tout those cars until the bitter end. I haven't quite figured out why they're so sold on these cars as the only thing the Koreans have proven is they can improve on building some of the worst, if not THE worst cars ever built. They have not yet proven they can build cars with the same level of build quality, durability, and long term reliability as the best Japanese auto makers, and yet to listen to some of these guys, you'd think it was the Japanese who are trying to catch up with the Koreans. Call me old fashioned, or just plain stubborn, but I'm afraid the Koreans will have to prove to me they can 1) build cars at the same level of build quality as the Japanese (which they are not yet doing regardless of what all of their fans claim), and 2) do so for a period of a couple of decades or so like the Japanese have done. If they can accomplish this (and that's a big IF), then, and only then I will give them the credit they will have earned. Until then, they get no free pass from me.
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Re: ttai [bottgers] by lhanson
Jul 28, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 6:33 pm)

Where do you place the American car manufacturers?
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Re: ttai [lhanson] by bottgers
Jul 28, 2007 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 28, 2007 6:48 pm)

Depends on specific models. Some are world class, and others are absolutely horrible.
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Re: ttai [bottgers] by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 7:05 pm)

Interesting. You are sayihg then that you think there are some American cars that are world class, yet I think it's pretty clear that no American manufacturer has demonstrated that they can: 1) build cars at the same level of build quality as the Japanese, and 2) do so for a period of a couple of decades or so like the Japanese have done.
 
So that leaves open the possibility that the Accent is actually a world-class car.
 
Maybe we could return now to the discussion about Yaris vs. Accent, and not about general musings about Korean and American vs. Japanese car quality?
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Re: ttai [backy] by bottgers
Jul 28, 2007 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 7:27 pm)

"Interesting. You are sayihg then that you think there are some American cars that are world class, yet I think it's pretty clear that no American manufacturer has demonstrated that they can: 1) build cars at the same level of build quality as the Japanese"
 
Sure they can and do. Buick builds cars and has for a long time that are at least equal to the best Japanese cars. Some of the big 3's full size pickups are also at least as good.
 
"So that leaves open the possibility that the Accent is actually a world-class car."
 
There's always a possibility, but you know what they say; you can dress a turd in a sweater, but it's still a turd.....
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Re: ttai [bottgers] by backy
Jul 29, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 8:06 pm)

Maybe instead of calling the Accent a turd, you could be more specific about what you don't like about the car--hopefully based on your close inspections and your test drive(s) of the car. That might be more useful to prospective buyers looking at this discussion.
 
Just a thought.
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Re: ttai [backy] by bottgers
Jul 29, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 29, 2007 7:22 am)

See post number 395.
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Post 395 is vague and doesn't really by iluvmysephia1
Jul 29, 2007 (8:48 am)
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nail any tacks down as to what you don't like. This is usually the case with Korean car bashers. They say vague, put-down comments about Korean cars that don't get to the point and then expect all the people that like Korean cars and have had good experiences with them to just shut up.
 
Ahh-ahh, not me, not this time.
 
Really, the only thing that a person can take away from post 395 that will stick is that you would like to see how Kia/Hyundai rigs will hold up for 20 years reliability/build wise. Well, best be watchin' close for another 20 years and then come back and commnent on how well they do hold up. Looking at how they're doing now I have no reason to believe that South Korean cars are not going to just keep getting better and better as the years roll by.
 
The Yaris can tout great gas mileage and great resale values, but, for those that don't like the Scion xD or an older Scion xA, and wanted a Toyota Yaris 5-door cross/hatch I guess they'll just have to look back to Kia and Hyundai. Unless for a 4-door Yaris they want the sedan. If looking at this class of cars to buy I would score myself a Kia Rio5 or Kia Rio sedan.

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