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Hatchbacks Toyota Yaris 2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift
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In the Toyota Yaris discussion, ttai made a post about the sales numbers for the Yaris vs. other small cars, and there was a thread that started about why Yaris sales numbers are much higher than Accent sales numbers. One suggestion was that it was due to Hyundai shipping relatively few Accents here; here is ttai's response to that: I saw a ton of accents at the dealer I went to. I doubt it's a supply issue. I can believe the Fit is a supply issue. Honda is shipping them very slowly. How many was "a ton"? (Also interesting that you, the proud owner of a Yaris, would be visiting a Hyundai dealer. Looking to trade?  ) I stop by my nearest Hyundai dealer pretty regularly, to check out all the new Hyundai models (9 in the past 30 months) and for scheduled maintenance on my Hyundai. Typically, there's less than 10 Accents on the lot. Maybe 4-5 sedans, 2-3 GSes, and 1-2 SEs. I have never seen a stick SE on this lot, or any other Hyundai lot. (I've never seen an SE w/o the moonroof/sound system package also.) I did see a stick GS once. The dealer has told me that the stick Accents and base SEs fly off the lot as soon as they arrive and the others are selling well also. This story is backed up by the relatively low incentives on the Accent, just $500, lowest of any Hyundai except the brand-new Veracruz. If Accents weren't selling pretty well vs. supply, incentives would be higher.
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 11:46 am)
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Replying to: ttai (Jul 28, 2007 12:13 pm) But thanks for mentioning that you have looked at (driven?) the Accent--I think that's the first time you've said that here. Which one(s) did you look at or drive, and what about the car specifically did you hate? |
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 11:46 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 28, 2007 5:16 pm) |
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As you are finding out, there are a few avid Korean car fanatics in here and they will tout those cars until the bitter end. I haven't quite figured out why they're so sold on these cars as the only thing the Koreans have proven is they can improve on building some of the worst, if not THE worst cars ever built. They have not yet proven they can build cars with the same level of build quality, durability, and long term reliability as the best Japanese auto makers, and yet to listen to some of these guys, you'd think it was the Japanese who are trying to catch up with the Koreans. Call me old fashioned, or just plain stubborn, but I'm afraid the Koreans will have to prove to me they can 1) build cars at the same level of build quality as the Japanese (which they are not yet doing regardless of what all of their fans claim), and 2) do so for a period of a couple of decades or so like the Japanese have done. If they can accomplish this (and that's a big IF), then, and only then I will give them the credit they will have earned. Until then, they get no free pass from me.
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 6:33 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 28, 2007 6:48 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 7:05 pm) So that leaves open the possibility that the Accent is actually a world-class car. Maybe we could return now to the discussion about Yaris vs. Accent, and not about general musings about Korean and American vs. Japanese car quality?
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 7:27 pm) Sure they can and do. Buick builds cars and has for a long time that are at least equal to the best Japanese cars. Some of the big 3's full size pickups are also at least as good. "So that leaves open the possibility that the Accent is actually a world-class car." There's always a possibility, but you know what they say; you can dress a turd in a sweater, but it's still a turd.....
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