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Let's Not Overlook the Cost to Insure these Cars by lhanson
Jul 27, 2007 (8:41 am)
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What is often overlooked is the difference in what it costs to insure these two cars. Typically the Yaris costs hundreds of dollars per year less than the Accent to insure. It is hard to believe, since they both have about the same replacement cost. Any ideas?
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Re: the real story with mileage [backy] by roxy11
Jul 27, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 27, 2007 6:31 am)

i admitted in my original post that the sample size for the rio was quite small, and the same goes for the accent. i should have been using the accent, since that is what is being compared to the yaris.
 
i agree that nothing conclusive can be drawn from such a small sample of accents. its only my opinion that a larger sample size would bring the average to close to 30 mpg for an automatic accent, maybe a bit higher for a manual. however, i have to give more validity to the sample size for the yaris. yes, i drive with fuel efficiency in mind, but dont do anything drastic. i mostly watch my shift points and anticipate stop lights and signs. many people dont. much like my 5 speed corolla, my effort in getting 40+ mpg in the yaris is pretty minimal. for many, getting 35 mpg would be fine. for me, its not. my only tank with a solid 50% highway/50% city mix still gave me 40.8 mpg.
 
regarding insurance rates, there are so many factors to an individuals rates..for comparisons sake, i pay $580 per year on my 07 yaris with AAA, full coverage, michigan, 41 yrs old, completely clean driving record. im very pleased with my rates, but i know certain regions in the country would be much worse for me.
 
why should an accent be any more to insure? is it because the risk is spread over a smaller number of cars?
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Re: Let's Not Overlook the Cost to Insure these Cars [lhanson] by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 27, 2007 8:41 am)

Part of the discrepancy in insurance costs may be parts costs. In a recent IIHS report on low-speed crashes, it noted that the Camry's damage cost less to repair than other cars that suffered less physical damage, due to the relatively low price for Camry parts. Perhaps the same is true for the Yaris.
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Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (11:46 am)
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In the Toyota Yaris discussion, ttai made a post about the sales numbers for the Yaris vs. other small cars, and there was a thread that started about why Yaris sales numbers are much higher than Accent sales numbers. One suggestion was that it was due to Hyundai shipping relatively few Accents here; here is ttai's response to that:
 
I saw a ton of accents at the dealer I went to. I doubt it's a supply issue. I can believe the Fit is a supply issue. Honda is shipping them very slowly.
 
How many was "a ton"? (Also interesting that you, the proud owner of a Yaris, would be visiting a Hyundai dealer. Looking to trade? ) I stop by my nearest Hyundai dealer pretty regularly, to check out all the new Hyundai models (9 in the past 30 months) and for scheduled maintenance on my Hyundai. Typically, there's less than 10 Accents on the lot. Maybe 4-5 sedans, 2-3 GSes, and 1-2 SEs. I have never seen a stick SE on this lot, or any other Hyundai lot. (I've never seen an SE w/o the moonroof/sound system package also.) I did see a stick GS once. The dealer has told me that the stick Accents and base SEs fly off the lot as soon as they arrive and the others are selling well also. This story is backed up by the relatively low incentives on the Accent, just $500, lowest of any Hyundai except the brand-new Veracruz. If Accents weren't selling pretty well vs. supply, incentives would be higher.
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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [backy] by ttai
Jul 28, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 11:46 am)

ummm Backy. When you go buy a car, you tend to visit different dealerships to see if you like the car before buying one. Soooooo. I did visit a Hyundai dealership to look at accents and completely hated it. I finally chose the Yaris. So did you need to know anything else like why is the sky up and the ground down.
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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [ttai] by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: ttai (Jul 28, 2007 12:13 pm)

Well, how about, how many is a "ton"?
 
But thanks for mentioning that you have looked at (driven?) the Accent--I think that's the first time you've said that here. Which one(s) did you look at or drive, and what about the car specifically did you hate?
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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [backy] by lhanson
Jul 28, 2007 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 28, 2007 11:46 am)

I rarely see more than 10 Yarii in stock at the 3 Memphis dealers and they are rarely listed in their sale ads. Currently Wolfchase shows 5 in stock, Performance 4 in stock and Chuck Hutton 0 in stock.
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Re: Yaris vs. Accent sales numbers [lhanson] by backy
Jul 28, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 28, 2007 5:16 pm)

I've never seen many Yarii in stock at my local dealer either. Less than 10 cars is not many, days-sales wise.
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ttai by bottgers
Jul 28, 2007 (6:33 pm)
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As you are finding out, there are a few avid Korean car fanatics in here and they will tout those cars until the bitter end. I haven't quite figured out why they're so sold on these cars as the only thing the Koreans have proven is they can improve on building some of the worst, if not THE worst cars ever built. They have not yet proven they can build cars with the same level of build quality, durability, and long term reliability as the best Japanese auto makers, and yet to listen to some of these guys, you'd think it was the Japanese who are trying to catch up with the Koreans. Call me old fashioned, or just plain stubborn, but I'm afraid the Koreans will have to prove to me they can 1) build cars at the same level of build quality as the Japanese (which they are not yet doing regardless of what all of their fans claim), and 2) do so for a period of a couple of decades or so like the Japanese have done. If they can accomplish this (and that's a big IF), then, and only then I will give them the credit they will have earned. Until then, they get no free pass from me.
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Re: ttai [bottgers] by lhanson
Jul 28, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jul 28, 2007 6:33 pm)

Where do you place the American car manufacturers?

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