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Hatchbacks Toyota Yaris 2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift
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Replying to: backy (Jul 26, 2007 12:04 pm)
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Replying to: ttai (Jul 26, 2007 12:22 pm) There must be a lot of pointless people around CarSpace then, since there's lots of comparison discussions here. I guess at least some people find they are a good way to get different opinions on cars they may be considering buying. Have fun driving your lovely Yaris! |
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Replying to: ttai (Jul 26, 2007 12:22 pm) I have had a good amount of time in both the Yaris and the Accent, and would agree with Backy's assessment. I don't own either but the Accent, specifically, the SE trim, would be the one had I become an owner of one of these small cars. Have you driven the Accent, by the way? Enjoy your Yaris. |
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gas mileage advantage of 35-37mpg over the Rio5's 32-35 is not a big enough reason to overlook the Rio sedan or Kia Rio5 hatch. With the Kia Warranty advantage and preferable Kia or Hyundai body styling my pick is the Kia then the Hyundai. Toyota and Scion are below them somewhere but probably not going to be chosen by this padre. I'd include Mitsubishi but they are not producing rigs in this class at this time.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 26, 2007 2:47 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 26, 2007 3:42 pm) its difficult to compare manual trannies, as the rio doesnt have a big enough sample. a 2006 rio sample has to be used since there are only 2 drivers for the 2007.(i believe the 06 rio is the current model). granted there are only 8 samples even with the 06 rio, so that is a pretty small sample. my experience with toyota has been that ive never had any trouble getting or exceeding epa mileage numbers. with the new 2008 method of figuring mileage, they'll be exceeded by a fair margin. i really should have looked at the accent rather than the rio. anyway, the 2007 auto accent faired barely better at 26.6 mpg. again a small sample with only 7 drivers. researching all forums discussing any and all subcompacts before making a purchase, i found the trend to be poor mileage (for a subcompact) in the korean makes, while many yaris owners were exceeding epa numbers (im talking 2007 epa numbers-not the new ones which are even lower). the differences were far more than 10%. since mileage is a top priority for me, i did not need to bother driving an accent or rio, as i personally would never accept the type of mileage numbers that actual owners are getting.
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Replying to: roxy11 (Jul 26, 2007 4:12 pm) |
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Replying to: roxy11 (Jul 26, 2007 4:12 pm) * There are only 7 ratings for the 2007 Accent AT and 3 for the MT. Not very large samples, compared to the samples for the 2007 Yaris. The samples for the 2006 Accent (the same car as the 2007 but in sedan form only) are even lower. * Note that the mpg's for the 2006 Accents are significantly higher than for the 2007s. This is consistent with what I and many other Hyundai owners (per posts in CarSpace et. al.) have experienced, i.e., Hyundai engines are "tight" and get much better fuel economy as they loosen up, beyond 15-20,000 miles or so. Note for example the 2007 AT average is 26.6 while the 2006 average is 30.6, or 15% higher. The MT average is higher for 2006 also. This is consistent with what I saw on the two Hyundais I've owned. They both got 15-20% better fuel economy after the first 15,000 miles or so. (FE actually started going up after a couple thousand miles and kept going up.) After break-in, I had no problem exceeding the EPA numbers. And if you look at the fueleconomy.gov numbers, that is exactly what these Accent drivers are doing, except for the 2007 AT owners (1.4 mpg below the EPA average so far). If you compare the average mpg of the Yaris MT drivers to that of the 2006 Accent MT drivers, the difference is 2.5 mpg. Not a huge difference. The difference for ATs is bigger, about 4.5 mpg. So if someone likes the Accent but wants the best fuel economy, they really need to get the MT--which is the way to go on small cars like these anyway, IMO.
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Replying to: backy (Jul 26, 2007 5:50 pm) the yaris has a much larger sampling and i expect no matter how large the yaris sample gets, the numbers wont change much. like i said, any prospective owners would serve themselves well to thoroughly read mpg sections for any applicable owner forums for these cars. i did and the results were clear. there are a few hyundai owners claiming good mileage, but that simply is not the trend. im confident that the average accent owner will get around 5-6 mpg less than the average yaris owner. this is around a 15% difference. with little effort, im averaging 42.3 mpg over 6 tanks with 70/30 highway/city driving in an 07 yaris. this is on an engine that has only around 2500 miles on it. i think i might squeeze 35 mpg out of an accent, but its only a guess. bottom line is what your priority is and what your confidence level is. i dont think the accent is an awful car overall, but the mileage numbers, imo, are disappointing for a subcompact. (much like the chevy aveo)
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Replying to: roxy11 (Jul 27, 2007 6:19 am) Yet you had no problem in your earlier post making generalizations about Yaris vs. Accent fuel economy using this small sample size.  So if it's OK for you to do that, I guess it's OK for me to do that. Anyway, I'm not just generalizing based on the small sample size on fueleconomy.gov. I am also using as a base many posts here on CarSpace and other forums that confirm that FE on Hyundais goes up significantly as the engine gets some miles. Thus I think it's reasonable to conclude that the FE numbers on fueleconomy.gov for the 2006 Accents are more representative of what to expect from the Accent than the 2007 numbers. And the 2006 numbers show a small difference in fuel economy (about 7%) for the MT, a bigger one for the AT. I think you would squeeze better than 35 mpg out of an Accent after break-in, given that I have no problem getting low 30s in a 50/50 pattern on a much larger Hyundai (2.0L 138 hp AT) and over 40 mpg on the highway with an MT. A lot depends on driving style however. I would guess from your numbers that, like me, you drive with an eye to FE rather than a lead foot.
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