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Hatchbacks Toyota Yaris 2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift
443 messages, Last post on Aug 10, 2009 at 8:51 AM
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Replying to: vermonter16 (Apr 25, 2006 2:27 am) |
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Replying to: tsgeisel (Jul 03, 2006 11:31 am)
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Replying to: vermonter16 (Jul 16, 2006 6:54 am) Online / Your local dealership The SE is differentiated from the regular Accent sedan (obviously), as well as the base 3 door in a few areas. Aside from sport tunning, and upgraded suspensions (to near Tiburon level), the most noticeable area you would find perhaps maybe the larger wheels (largest in the class) - 16" to be exact. |
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Working on my grandsons 2000 Hyundia Accent-The altinator fuse continues to blow-Removed altinator ,had it checked out -checked fine but will not show a charge going back to the Battery post. The plugin for the altinator fuse completely burened out to the postive side of the battery. Have the two wires connected to a fuse fuse tail clip sufficing for the damage box in the main fuse assembly. Worked fine when driven yesterday for serval miles. Trid to start this morn. Fuse blown over night.Was going to take it too my Mechanic but want kick in starter. Tried jumping but to no avail. Need help ASAP. Harold Gammons(Bozie) PS-The Alternator does not show a charge coming back to the battery when it is running.That's Why trip to my mechanic is necessary.
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Replying to: bozie (Jul 18, 2006 8:43 am) |
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My opinion on the pros and cons of these two cars: Yaris H/B Pros: * Low starting price - includes A/C * Excellent fuel economy * Smooth ride for a small car * Excellent predicted reliability based on Toyota's history and specifically the history of its predecessor, the ECHO * Better predicted resale value than the Accent (see below) Yaris H/B Cons: * Side airbags/curtains and ABS are optional and are in limited supply * Features that are common standard features in this class such as rear window defroster, 60/40 rear seat, height-adjustable driver's seat, and tachometer are either optional or not available * Less passenger room than most competitors * Less cargo room (especially with back seat up) than most competitors * No side moldings to ward off dings (aftermarket?) * No cruise control or sunroof available as factory options (aftermarket?) * Center-mounted speedo is too small to be read easily at a glance * Crash test scores not very good, based on NHTSA scores for Yaris 4-door w/o side bags (4/4/3/3) Accent H/B Pros: * Low starting price (GS) - includes six airbags, 8-way driver's seat, 60/40 rear seat, 8-way driver's seat with armrest, tach, sport steering, variable intermittent wipers, and rear spoiler. * Standard side airbags/curtains and (in SE) standard ABS with EBD. * Good standard feature content in GS (except A/C) and SE (GS features per above plus A/C, power windows/locks/heated mirrors, remote locking with alarm, 6-speaker CD stereo, 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS, sport suspension, 16" alloys with V-rated tires, leather wheel/shift knob, fog lamps, and dual lighted vanity mirrors) * Largest interior in its class (EPA rated as a compact) * Most powerful engine in its class * Clear gauges, mounted in front of driver * Very quiet for its class * Smooth ride for a small car * Factory sunroof is available * Very good crash test scores for this class except rear side, based on NHTSA scores for Accent 4-door with standard side airbags/curtains (5/5/4/3) Accent H/B Cons: * Fuel economy does not match competitors like Yaris and Fit * New design, thus no reliability history (previous Accent design was rated a little above average overall by CR from 2000-2004) * Predicted resale value as percentage of MSRP is less than the Yaris'; per ALG, the Accent's is 23% and the Yaris' is 32% (however, note that a comparable Accent costs less than a Yaris, so the dollar depreciation could be very close depending on purchase price) * Tall throws on stick shift (short-throw kit is available as dealer-installed option) * No side moldings to ward off dings (aftermarket?) * No cruise control available as a factory option (aftermarket?) What did I miss? |
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Replying to: backy (Oct 01, 2006 9:29 am) The Yaris is close in price, better predicted reliability, has a nearly 10% better residual (resale) value, and nearly 10% better gas mileage combined. It is hard, but far from impossible, to find one with side airbags. While on the topic of frills, it also has more cupholders and gloveboxes/cubbies. The Accent is slightly less expensive comparably, has a few more frills (but A/C isn't standard), but has Side/Curtain Airbags standard. It also has 3.5% more horsepower. It is more spacious. In the top of the line model it also offers a sport suspension. After driving both, I'd say it is indeed a bit quieter at speed than the Yaris as well. Comparing resale of the ECHO to the Accent you can also clearly see the disparity in favor if the ECHO, despite the Accent being sold for "less". A quick look at www.autotrader.com can illustrate the flaw in believing a "good" deal will offset residual differences. It didn't, at least in the case of the Accent vs. the ECHO. T
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Replying to: backy (Oct 01, 2006 9:29 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Oct 01, 2006 2:12 pm)  With a little clarification, but generally spot on! T |
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Replying to: tjw1308 (Oct 01, 2006 1:43 pm) How many Yaris hatchbacks have you seen at your dealership with a stick, ABS, and side bags/curtains? I think you are right about the Yaris having more gloveboxes--doesn't it have one in front of the driver too? As for cupholders, the GS has two and the SE has four. How many does the Yaris hatch have? (The Accent sedan has eight, which is kind of overkill since it can only seat five!) A/C is standard on the Accent SE, and optional on the GS. I have read posts in Town Hall from people looking for really basic cars w/o air, so maybe the fact that the GS can be had w/o air is appealing to some. I just wonder how many GS models will actually be shipped w/o air. The resale equation is interesting. Let me give an example to show what I mean per my earlier post. Let's say someone could buy either an Accent SE or Yaris. MSRP with destination on the SE is $14,495, invoice is $13,591, Edmunds' TMV in my area is $14,040. A comparably equipped Yaris (as close as they can be anyway) lists for $14,950 including the mandatory (in my area) Cold Weather Package. That is also the Edmunds TMV price. Now let's make a reasonable assumption that there will be a rebate on the 2007 Accents in the near future. There has been a $1000 rebate on the 2006 Accent for some time, and as you have pointed out every 2006 Hyundai model has some sort of rebate. So I don't think it's a big leap to think there will be one on the 2007 Accents once the supply of 2006s is gone. So the purchase prices for sake of this example are $13,040 (TMV less rebate) for the Accent and $14,950 for the Yaris (TMV, assuming no rebate). After five years according to ALG's estimates, the Accent will be worth 23% of its MSRP and the Yaris will be worth 32%. That's $3334 for the Accent and $4784 for the Yaris. But the Accent actually cost $13,040. So over five years, the Accent buyer lost $9696 in depreciation, and the Yaris buyer lost $10,166. Please check my math on this example, but it looks like the Yaris buyer lost more money in five years than the Accent buyer did. So that's an example, and I think a realistic one, as to how a "good deal" can offset residual differences.
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