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Volkswagen New Beetle, Volkswagen Golf, Volkswagen Jetta, Volkswagen Passat, Diesel, Hatchback, Sedan, Wagon
#2536 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [fors]
Aug 18, 2012 (9:40 pm)
B, Your ?'s about the latest diesel's seem to be quite dated. I have been driving the VWdiesels since the 70's. The new cars do not smell. They don't smoke and they are quiet. When gas goes to 8.49 a gallon in a couple of years. These cars will be sought after. GM and Ford already have cars and trucks like these but just don't sell the in the US, Yet. The Chevy Cruse diesel will be sold here starting in 2013. 50 mpg. It's being sold in Asia and Australia, India etc etc. So, Yes I would buy it. Heck we just bought a new 2012 VW Passat. I filled my 1st tank of fuel 6 weeks after we bought it. Neat
#2537 of 2551 Re: TDI costs? [ruking1]
Aug 18, 2012 (9:42 pm)
R, You da' man. 175,000 and still going. An inspiration.
#2538 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [lcw1]
Aug 18, 2012 (9:56 pm)
CW, I love the smell of Diesel in the morning. Just sayin' All kidding aside. The other posts here are right. Modern TDI powered cars don't smell much. Sure, There is some order filling up at the pump but you get that with gasser vechicles.
#2539 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [zahava]
Aug 19, 2012 (5:34 am)
Welcome to the Forum, keep us posted on your new TDI.
#2540 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [gagrice]
Aug 19, 2012 (8:11 am)
There won't be any more diesels sold in N.America than the car/oil companies can keep out.
They will kick and scream and use their P.R. hacks and lobby money to stall and add more rules to keep Diesel Cars from getting a bigger market share.
Remember the good idea T Boon Picken's had a few years ago about using more natural gas engines to get off the gasoline habit? He might as well have been talking to rows of fence posts...
Why so much resistance? I think it's because they can't market ETHANOL to diesel or natural gas vehicles owners.
This Govt. mandated poison in your tank gives you less power, worse mpg's causing you to buy more fuel. The Huge Multie National companies that are now in the game, and the Govt, hungry for the extra fuel tax million$, love that.
My old 06 TDI (using NO Ethonal) costs me half of what my gas cars used to for the same trips..
Last week there was a proposal to drop the mandate for ethanol in gas for this season due to the drought and poor corn crops over many states.
That good idea got killed before before it took it's first breath.
Call me paranoid, but I will believe a 50 mpg Chevy Cruz with a diesel engine when I see it, if I live that long.
#2541 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [longo2]
Aug 19, 2012 (8:19 am)
I would imagine a big part of the higher priced gas is higher priced ethanol without as many subsidies. Although I think they have cut back to the 2.9% mandate with the subsidies gone. I get better mileage this year than last. I cannot think of any other reason. Only about 1.5 MPG better with my 08 Nissan Frontier. Would be nice to have the same truck with a diesel engine getting 30 MPG.
#2542 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [zahava]
Aug 19, 2012 (9:17 am)
I think you are stretching it a bit on the price of gas, and IF it does reach that high, diesel will be close to $9/gallon... At that price, I would have a elec car, since I wouldn't have to worry about the fuel price, and since Solar is being installed on the house this week, it would cost next to nothing to run it. On a flight to Detroit there was a Ford engineer sitting next to me, who worked/working on the new Fusion, he told me that the Fusion will come in a diesel version, but he couldn't tell me which engine. I would like to see more American made cars with a diesel option... The Cruze looks promising and I'm sure the 50 MPG is low, since GM is expecting it to be higher.
#2543 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [flightnurse]
Aug 19, 2012 (11:52 am)
Here's some chatter from 'gearhead' about the diesel Cruze........................
" according to sources in the Associated Press, GM is planning to sell a diesel-powered Chevy Cruze right here in the U.S. And it could achieve up to 50 mpg…with a healthy dose of torque to go with it.
This is basically the same story that made its way around the Internet back in February, only this time, with a date attached. The AP points to 2013 as the likely launch date, and that there is a 2.0 liter diesel powering the Holden Cruze down in Australia. That engine uses 5.6 liters of fuel for every 100 km of travel, which equates to about 42 mpg (combined) rated, as long as you opt for the six-speed manual transmission. Selecting the automatic drops the combined mileage down to 6.7 L/100 km, or about 35 mpg.
With the manual option, GM could get close to a 50 mpg rating here in the U.S., as under the Australian standards the 2.0 diesel-powered Cruze uses just 4.8 L/100 km during “extra urban” (highway) driving. That equates to 49 mpg highway. In the city, the rating drops to 7.0 L/ 100 km, or about 34 mpg. What with all the recent and impending changes to EPA ratings, CAFE standards, so on and so forth, who knows what the final numbers will be. But if GM squeezes a combined rating of 42 mpg out of a diesel Cruze, that could go a long way towards meeting the proposed 56.5 mpg CAFE standard that the White House is considering for by 2025.
The best part though, is that the new diesel engine makes 161 horsepower and 360 NM/266 ft-lbs of toque"
#2544 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [longo2]
Aug 19, 2012 (3:33 pm)
It wont make a dent in the GM's Cafe #'s if they do not sell. VW has positioned itself well for the 56.5MPG. Both GM and Ford missed the boat for not bring over a GOOD diesel car/engine combo years ago..
#2545 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [flightnurse]
Aug 30, 2012 (7:01 pm)
Flightnurse, Right you are. VW got other stuff up their slieves. Audi is bringing the Audi A6and A8 TDI's over to the US. Luxury + AWD + Good MPG. THe A4's and TT's will follow. Have you checked on the VW Lupo? It has set records over there. It is a cheap little car and gets between 80 to 120mpg. Google it. It's interesting. There is the Smart Car for 2. I have a MD acquaintence who was in Italy last year. He rented one and got 70 mpg. Has a diesel engine as well. There is a diesel hybrid that gets 120mpg and is still being tweaked. The other posts do raise a point that I am aware of and that is the special interests in this country who blunt and retard the advance of these vehicles to favor their largess. I.E. They brought the smart car here and dumped a gas engine in it and only gets 40 to 50mpg and it takes premium fuel on top of that. Well that isn't going to go anywhere and that's what happened. It will take another financial downturn to make this happen. When the need is acute they will supply the product just in time. Hmmmm Maybe I should buy some stock now. Regards to all