Volkswagen Owners: TDI Models

2551 messages,  Last post on Sep 02, 2012 at 2:44 PM

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#2535 of 2551 Re: TDI costs? [homerkc] by ruking1

May 06, 2012 (11:45 am)

Replying to: homerkc (May 06, 2012 10:58 am)
I think your goals might be WAY too low. So it is really the perfect reason to stay with your 2.5 L or use the reasoning to get into a TDI. So the real question given the issue of fuel savings is how many gals and or both dollars can you save in 120,000 miles. Figure 40-42 mpg on the current Mk 5 TDI. Fueleconomy.gov lists 26 mpg for the Jetta 2.5. (2927- 4615=1688 gal saved 4.15= $7,006) 120,000 miles is the first "major tune". That consists of a timing belt and water pump replacement. Now this is fairly technically exacting from a DIY perspective, so make sure you use a local guru, GTG guru or independent shop that specializes in TDI's. In your case, you can expect to come up on it app 7.5 years. I have 175,000 miles on a 9 year old MY Jetta TDI. I have had little to NO unscheduled repairs. Yes, it has had scheduled maintenance (20,000 to 30,000 oil change intervals, air filters, etc). It has even had a few TSB's. One UN scheduled repair was a drivers side headlamp going out. $8.0 to R/R. I just recently had two brake lamps go out. Dealer R/R no charge, lams are what 2 per? I had to replace a windshield, rock out of nowhere. Tires were changed 112,300 miles. I swag 250,000 miles from the rotors and brake pads. Resale historically has been higher for the TDI over the gasser, but specific dollar amounts are not guaranteed or guaranteed to continue.

#2536 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [fors] by zahava

Aug 18, 2012 (9:40 pm)

Replying to: fors (Jan 25, 2012 8:57 pm)
B, Your ?'s about the latest diesel's seem to be quite dated. I have been driving the VWdiesels since the 70's. The new cars do not smell. They don't smoke and they are quiet. When gas goes to 8.49 a gallon in a couple of years. These cars will be sought after. GM and Ford already have cars and trucks like these but just don't sell the in the US, Yet. The Chevy Cruse diesel will be sold here starting in 2013. 50 mpg. It's being sold in Asia and Australia, India etc etc. So, Yes I would buy it. Heck we just bought a new 2012 VW Passat. I filled my 1st tank of fuel 6 weeks after we bought it. Neat

#2537 of 2551 Re: TDI costs? [ruking1] by zahava

Aug 18, 2012 (9:42 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (May 06, 2012 11:45 am)
R, You da' man. 175,000 and still going. An inspiration.

#2538 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [lcw1] by zahava

Aug 18, 2012 (9:56 pm)

Replying to: lcw1 (May 06, 2011 4:23 am)
CW, I love the smell of Diesel in the morning. Just sayin' All kidding aside. The other posts here are right. Modern TDI powered cars don't smell much. Sure, There is some order filling up at the pump but you get that with gasser vechicles.

#2539 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [zahava] by gagrice

Aug 19, 2012 (5:34 am)

Replying to: zahava (Aug 18, 2012 9:56 pm)
Welcome to the Forum, keep us posted on your new TDI.

#2540 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [gagrice] by longo2

Aug 19, 2012 (8:11 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Aug 19, 2012 5:34 am)
There won't be any more diesels sold in N.America than the car/oil companies can keep out.
 
 They will kick and scream and use their P.R. hacks and lobby money to stall and add more rules to keep Diesel Cars from getting a bigger market share.
 Remember the good idea T Boon Picken's had a few years ago about using more natural gas engines to get off the gasoline habit? He might as well have been talking to rows of fence posts...
 
Why so much resistance? I think it's because they can't market ETHANOL to diesel or natural gas vehicles owners.
This Govt. mandated poison in your tank gives you less power, worse mpg's causing you to buy more fuel. The Huge Multie National companies that are now in the game, and the Govt, hungry for the extra fuel tax million$, love that.
My old 06 TDI (using NO Ethonal) costs me half of what my gas cars used to for the same trips..
 
Last week there was a proposal to drop the mandate for ethanol in gas for this season due to the drought and poor corn crops over many states.
 
  That good idea got killed before before it took it's first breath.
 
 Call me paranoid, but I will believe a 50 mpg Chevy Cruz with a diesel engine when I see it, if I live that long.
 

#2541 of 2551 Re: Diesel smell [longo2] by gagrice

Aug 19, 2012 (8:19 am)

Replying to: longo2 (Aug 19, 2012 8:11 am)
I would imagine a big part of the higher priced gas is higher priced ethanol without as many subsidies. Although I think they have cut back to the 2.9% mandate with the subsidies gone. I get better mileage this year than last. I cannot think of any other reason. Only about 1.5 MPG better with my 08 Nissan Frontier. Would be nice to have the same truck with a diesel engine getting 30 MPG.

#2542 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [zahava] by flightnurse

Aug 19, 2012 (9:17 am)

Replying to: zahava (Aug 18, 2012 9:40 pm)
I think you are stretching it a bit on the price of gas, and IF it does reach that high, diesel will be close to $9/gallon... At that price, I would have a elec car, since I wouldn't have to worry about the fuel price, and since Solar is being installed on the house this week, it would cost next to nothing to run it. On a flight to Detroit there was a Ford engineer sitting next to me, who worked/working on the new Fusion, he told me that the Fusion will come in a diesel version, but he couldn't tell me which engine. I would like to see more American made cars with a diesel option... The Cruze looks promising and I'm sure the 50 MPG is low, since GM is expecting it to be higher.

#2543 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [flightnurse] by longo2

Aug 19, 2012 (11:52 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Aug 19, 2012 9:17 am)
Here's some chatter from 'gearhead' about the diesel Cruze........................
 
" according to sources in the Associated Press, GM is planning to sell a diesel-powered Chevy Cruze right here in the U.S. And it could achieve up to 50 mpg…with a healthy dose of torque to go with it.
 
This is basically the same story that made its way around the Internet back in February, only this time, with a date attached. The AP points to 2013 as the likely launch date, and that there is a 2.0 liter diesel powering the Holden Cruze down in Australia. That engine uses 5.6 liters of fuel for every 100 km of travel, which equates to about 42 mpg (combined) rated, as long as you opt for the six-speed manual transmission. Selecting the automatic drops the combined mileage down to 6.7 L/100 km, or about 35 mpg.
 
With the manual option, GM could get close to a 50 mpg rating here in the U.S., as under the Australian standards the 2.0 diesel-powered Cruze uses just 4.8 L/100 km during “extra urban” (highway) driving. That equates to 49 mpg highway. In the city, the rating drops to 7.0 L/ 100 km, or about 34 mpg. What with all the recent and impending changes to EPA ratings, CAFE standards, so on and so forth, who knows what the final numbers will be. But if GM squeezes a combined rating of 42 mpg out of a diesel Cruze, that could go a long way towards meeting the proposed 56.5 mpg CAFE standard that the White House is considering for by 2025.
 
The best part though, is that the new diesel engine makes 161 horsepower and 360 NM/266 ft-lbs of toque"
 
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#2544 of 2551 Re: 2012 Volkswagen Golf Wagon 4dr TDI [longo2] by flightnurse

Aug 19, 2012 (3:33 pm)

Replying to: longo2 (Aug 19, 2012 11:52 am)
It wont make a dent in the GM's Cafe #'s if they do not sell. VW has positioned itself well for the 56.5MPG. Both GM and Ford missed the boat for not bring over a GOOD diesel car/engine combo years ago..
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