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#163 of 182 Transfer Cluth Overhaul Cost
Oct 30, 2009 (8:19 am)
The dealer tells me that the shudder in my wheel when I turn sharp left or right go forward or back is the result of the transfer clutch. They want to do an overhaul for about $2000. That is a lot of money!! Is that a fair price?
#164 of 182 Re: Transfer Cluth Overhaul Cost [faford]
Oct 30, 2009 (10:32 am)
That transfer clutch is buried in the transaxle housing, so there is a lot of labor involved just to access it, let alone replace it. I am not sure if the price is fair, but transmission rebuilds are usually in that ball park, and that is essentially what is required here.
#165 of 182 Transmission Fluid Flush
Nov 09, 2009 (4:06 pm)
Is this necessary? We have an '06 Subaru Forester with about 32k miles, and every time I take it to the dealer for service they try to convince me to do a transmission fluid flush for about $200. I said, "If the service chart does not call for it, I'm not doing it," and the service manager told me they "strongly recommend" it, even though the manufacturer does not call for it.
Is this just a way of generating service center profit, or is it legit?
#166 of 182 Re: Transmission Fluid Flush [stlawrence]
Nov 09, 2009 (5:35 pm)
Unless you burned the fluid (it will have a brownish color and smell "burnt") or are changing to a different fluid, such as changing to synthetic, etc., there is no reason to flush the fluid. Regular changes (drain/fill) are necessary, but your service schedule should specify the recommended intervals.
It definitely generates profit for the service center....
Nov 22, 2009 (9:41 pm)
What is the cost to replace a clutch on a 2002 Forester?
Nov 22, 2009 (9:53 pm)
I am looking for non-dealer repair shops for my Subaru in S.E. Michigan.
#169 of 182 Re: Transmission Fluid Flush [xwesx]
Nov 23, 2009 (8:23 am)
" Unless you burned the fluid... there is no reason to flush the fluid. Regular changes (drain/fill) are necessary, but your service schedule should specify the recommended intervals."
There is no interval in the manuals, just check and change if needed. Draining only removes 4 of the 10 quarts, so flushing is the only way to change the fluid. Flushing is done with the engine running and a special automatic pumping system made by BG Co. This is the only way to remove particles and deposits caught in the torque converter, valve body, filter screen and other automatic transmission components. You can see the flushing units toward the bottom of this page:
This equipment is an expensive investment for the dealer, the flushing fluid is reused but has a life and a cost, and Subaru ATF is $7 a quart. The dealer charges about $200 for the service, of which perhaps half is for the flush and ATF fluids, and half is for labor and equipment amortization. It is not an unfair price.
If you have an XT or pull a trailer, I would do the flush at the 30K service or anytime sooner that it is suspected that the fluid has been overheated (especially if the AT Temp light comes on). Otherwise at the 60K service. I don't believe in waiting until a check every 30K finds bad fluid, as it could have been in there too long.
#170 of 182 Re: Transmission Fluid Flush [aatherton]
Nov 23, 2009 (8:54 am)
At our shop we do the Diffy and Manul Transmission drain/fill at 30k intervals and most of our users go for the full Amsoil Synthetic Fluids.
For the ATF we don't believe in the flush method. It can damage the fins in the torque converter. We do a drain and fill at 30k intervals which gets out about 3-4 quarts of the 10 in there. We also change the ATF Filter if it has one external (the recent subies use the same filter as the oil filter).
#171 of 182 Re: Transmission Fluid Flush [paisan]
Nov 23, 2009 (9:49 am)
What is the process you perform when first switching the fluid to synthetic? I did a "flush" method on my Caravan's transmission at home (which was a little awkward/messy) when I first switched it from the ATF +4 it specified to Amsoil U-ATF, but that was because I wanted all of the old stuff out. For regular maintenance, I would only drop the pan, replace the filter, and refill the fluid lost.
#172 of 182 Re: Transmission Fluid Flush [paisan]
Nov 23, 2009 (5:46 pm)
"... we don't believe in the flush method. It can damage the fins in the torque converter. We do a drain and fill at 30k intervals which gets out about 3-4 quarts of the 10 in there. We also change the ATF Filter if it has one external (the recent subies use the same filter as the oil filter). "
Many dealers of all kinds of cars use the BG Co. flushing equipment, and dealers that don't have simply been unwilling to invest in the equipment. Flushing cannot damage fins that handle the torque of the motor.
If the ATF needs changing, a drain and refill of 4 out of the 10 quarts serves no purpose. Changing requires a flush.
The ATF filter is not the same as the oil filter. They are different filters, stenciled with Engine and ATF. The fact that they look identical to you led to many ATF filters being mistakenly removed by Jiffy Lubes, etc. For that reason, and for all the problems it caused to transmissions, Subaru deleted the ATF filter from all recent Foresters.