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#143 of 182 Re: '07 Forester - Noise while accelerating [firstsub]
May 06, 2008 (5:07 am)
"... I put on Avid H4S yokohama and same noise still there."
The EOM Yokahoma Geolandars on my 08 were very noisy. I think the same tires are used for 09. The tread sang and whined on smooth surfaces, and the stiff sidewalls transmitted roar from coarse surfaces. They have good handling, snow and off-road traction and tread life, but I did not like them for my general driving.
After 3,500 miles I sold the Geolandars and put on Michelin Primacy MXV4's, which have a tread pattern similar to your new Avid H4S. All the tire noise disappeared.
1. I selected the Primacy because it was advertised and reviewed as being a very quiet tire, like the TripleTread and the Pilot Exalto. I don't see the same thing for the AVID, so it may be another noisy tire.
2. I would not describe any of my tire noise as "rolling". Singing, whining, roaring, but not rolling. Perhaps Yokohama gave you new tires for a mechanical problem.
#144 of 182 Re: '07 Forester - Noise while accelerating [kurtamaxxxguy]
May 06, 2008 (5:56 am)
took longer drive on freeway last night and didn't hear any odd sounds from drivetrain.
Anyone else have a chirping headliner/headliner light box? Am still hearing this in some temperatures so I have some more sleuthing to do.
#145 of 182 2003 forester with manual and drive train problem
Aug 03, 2008 (5:36 pm)
I have a 2003 forester with a 5 speed manual and 65000 mi. It's been running great, until this morning. Tried to accelerate and it sounds like the clutch is slipping. Its very difficult to get it above 30 miles per hour. 1st , 2nd, and 3rd grears really slip while accelerating. Once in 4th and 5th gears there is no slipping and I'm able to maintain 40 plus miles per hour with no problem. Gears don't grind and no leaking fluid. I have about 3/4 to 1 inch of freeplay in clutch pedal. Clutch pressure feels the same as it always has. Is this a clutch problem or a viscous coupling problem? What will this type of repair possibly cost.
#146 of 182 Re: 2003 forester with manual and drive train problem [dchesson]
Aug 03, 2008 (5:48 pm)
Sounds about right for the clutch. They only last about 80k miles so 67k could be possible. I'd say it's the clutch based on your observations. Typically you'll get slipping in the lower gears first.
#147 of 182 Re: 2003 forester with manual and drive train problem [paisan]
Aug 03, 2008 (8:32 pm)
Thanks for the help! I've replaced a clutch on an old 1958 VW Bug and a 1968 Squareback before. Is a Subaru clutch job something a shade tree mechanic could handle or is it best left for the pros. I've found several web sites with clutch kits for about $250. What do you figure the labor for the job would run.
#148 of 182 Re: 2003 forester with manual and drive train problem [paisan]
Aug 04, 2008 (10:31 am)
"... Typically you'll get slipping in the lower gears first. "
My experience is that clutch slip is first evidenced in top gear when applying heavy throttle at highway speed, per this quote:
"... When a clutch starts to slip, the slippage will be most noticeable when the engine is under load... in a high gear, when driving up a hill, when accelerating to pass another vehicle..."
That is why clutch slip is also tested by using the top gear, per this quote:
"... Depress the clutch pedal and put the transmission in fourth gear. Slowly let up on the clutch while stepping on the gas pedal. If you are able to completely release the clutch pedal without the engine stalling (or the car moving), your clutch is history..."
#149 of 182 Re: Forester pauses before shifting into drive? [arielphf]
Aug 07, 2008 (2:07 pm)
I had the same "pause before shifting into drive "problem with my 1999 Subaru Forester (94,000 miles). I took the car to a transmission repair shop (Croteau's in Johnson City, NY) and they said it was "defective low clutch seals" which they replaced for a grand total of $1028.74.
Here's the cost breakdown if you're considering having this repair done on your car: Labor ($690) + Parts ($262.54) + Tax ($76.20) = $1028.74
The parts include: Gasket/Seal Kit ($196.55) + Internal Filter ($15.43) + Spin-On Filter ($10) + Transmission Fluid ($40.56) = $262.54
The shop owner said that except for the seals, the transmission was in great shape. Furthermore, he said he has seen enough 1999 Subaru Foresters come in to his shop with this problem that he knew exactly what was going on as soon as I described the "pause before shifting into drive" problem to him over the phone.
By the way, before I took my car to Croteau's, I called my local Subaru dealer. The Subaru dealer gave me the following quotes: $6000 to rebuild the transmission, or $4000 to replace the transmission with a new, remanufactured transmission, or $2200 to install a used transmission from a junk yard.
Before Croteau's did any work on my car, they estimated that the replacement of the seals would cost about $1000. Or, in the worst case scenario, once they opened up the transmission and saw that it had to be rebuilt, they could rebuild it for about $2300. The $1028.74 I spent to replace the seals was a lot of money, but compared to the prices the Subaru dealer quoted, I'm not complaining.
Based on my limited experience, my advice is: if your Forester goes in reverse with no problem, but hesitates when put in drive, it's probably the seals that need to be replaced. If you want to have the seals replaced, find a reputable transmission repair shop. Avoid the Subaru dealer and their outrageous prices.
#150 of 182 Re: 2003 forester with manual and drive train problem [aatherton]
Aug 07, 2008 (3:46 pm)
I generally drive my cars hard so I will notice the slip in 1st and 2nd on hard starts from traffic lights or accelerating onto the highway. In 4th and 5th I am rarely mashing the pedal or really getting to higher RPMs, whereas I usually wind out 1st and 2nd more than 4th and 5th.
The letting out the clutch slowly w/o giving it gas is also a proceedure I use as well.
I have seen where a faulty master or slave cylinder has caused what appeared to be slippage in the non-turbo cars (RS most notably).
#151 of 182 Maintenance - Clutch
Jul 10, 2009 (12:37 am)
#152 of 182 Maintenance - Clutch
Jul 09, 2009 (1:40 pm)
When I shift gears,the clutch makes a clump you can hear and feel ! Especially going in to 2nd and 3rd ! 08 Forester !