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Toyota Highlander, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), SUV
#164 of 302 Re: Math? [citivas]
Sep 21, 2008 (8:11 pm)
I agree. If you don't drive a lot of city miles a year, Hybrids are just not worth much extra. Most people can talk themselves into anything they really want ot buy - logic be damned. Logic is used to justify their emotionally-tinged decisions. It is fairly damning of Toyota to not offer an increased residual on a lease. It will be interesting how this may change in the future.
Me - not sure what to do. I just checked the weight of the current V-6 Highlander - 4,000 lbs. in Sport and Limited trim. Even the addition of the 2.7L option will not make it an economical drive around town. I hope the Venza is 600-800 lbs lighter. Just turned 22k on my 2007 4-cyl Highlander. Running just fine, too. Not exciting, but fine.
#165 of 302 Re: Math? [ecotrklvr]
Sep 22, 2008 (11:57 am)
Do you require the third row and capacity of the Highlander? If fuel efficiency is driving your decision and you don't need that thirs row, get the Ford Edge Hybrid. You have to get over it being a Ford and looking like a classic SUV, but it gets 30/34 MPG, even in real world conditions. I absolutely required the third row (which is another reason I didn't go with the Highlander which hs a really small third row that can't be used on long trips since you can't split it to use and still pack stuff), otherwise I would have very seriously considered the Ford Hybird. It actually uses the exact same Hybrid Engine as the Toyota becaue Ford licensed it from Toyota but gets the added MPG benefit because it is lighter.
#166 of 302 Re: Math? [citivas]
Sep 22, 2008 (5:02 pm)
I think you mean the Ford Escape Hybrid not the Edge.
#167 of 302 Re: Math? [bdyment]
Sep 22, 2008 (7:55 pm)
He's probably just giddy that he got a hybrid of some type and can be "cool" now, not realizing that it IS a Ford and that it makes no financial sense whatsoever.
#168 of 302 Re: Math? [citivas]
Oct 03, 2008 (5:08 am)
It actually uses the exact same Hybrid Engine as the Toyota becaue Ford licensed it from Toyota but gets the added MPG benefit because it is lighter.
Actually it uses the Toyota setup from the Camry (4cy engine). I thought the HH uses a V6 Hybrid combo and that's the reason the Escape out performs (on FE) the HH. Weight would not make up the 5 to 7 mpg difference.
#169 of 302 Re: Toyota Highlander: MPG - Real World Numbers [steve_]
Oct 04, 2008 (7:09 am)
2007 FWD 4 cyl with a remote starter!
Odometer = 12,400
Long term mpg average = 18.88
High MPG = 27.93
Low MPG = 11.93 - result of 20 F below temps, lots of idling and heavy use of the remote starter
Most driving is in-town with the summer average at 19-21 mpg and winter average at 14-17 mpg. Highway mpg is 23 to 28 depending on the wind direction, wind speed and road speed (local highways 65 to 70, the interstate is 75).
We used some E10 (89) gas early on with the Highlander. The E10 is generally about 10 cents less per gallon, however, our experience is that the mpg drop with E10 makes regular plain gasoline a better deal.
For comparison here is our previous 03 Sienna with the 3.0L V6 (FWD)
Odometer = 26,000
Long term mpg average = 16.47
High MPG = 26.23 (vacation to Jellystone, used a lot of 85 octane fuel) Generally the highway mpg was 22-24 mpg.
Low MPG = 9.03
#170 of 302 Re: Toyota Highlander: MPG - Real World Numbers [steve_]
Oct 04, 2008 (8:49 am)
I have a 2005 Highlander with 6 cyl engine. 15,000 annually. 55% town and local. Fast driver, generally. 17 local, 22-24 highway.
#171 of 302 2004 HL AWD V6
Oct 16, 2008 (6:15 am)
1248 mile trip, 880 miles pure highway, the rest mixed city/suburban/highway. Overall 22.3 mpg. The two all highway tanks were 23.4 and 23.6, average speed about 69 mph. The trip computer on the 23.4 highway tank read 25.0, more optimistic than usual.
#172 of 302 Re: Toyota Highlander: MPG - Real World Numbers [cubanpete2]
Oct 17, 2008 (8:34 am)
I also have a 2005 Highlander V-6, FWD, with 55,000 Miles. Last weekend my wife went to her class reunion in Upland IN, a 592 mile round trip that took her from WI, through Chicago, down through IN and back. 20% stop and go due to construction and detours in Chicago and Gary IN. only used 22.5 Gallons of 87 Octane. That is 26.3 MPG, and she used the air the whole way...
Tires: O.E. Brigstone Dueler set at 35 Psi
Oil: Mobil 1 5W-30 SUV
Oct 18, 2008 (8:01 pm)
I have a 2007 Highlander Hybrid AWD with 35,000 miles. It gets 26 mpg, and that's averaged over winters and summers, highway and city, good days and bad ones. And having driven cars for 45 years, I know that in the real world that I'm describing, the non-hybrid just doesn't come close. Plus the hybrid blows the doors off a standard Highlander, and all SUVs except the hemis. Yes, there is a price differential, but the MPG makes up part of it, probably most of it, possibly all of it depending on gas prices. But the important part is even if it isn't 100% cost justified, it's a vital step in the transition to all electric cars.