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Honda Element Real World MPG

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Re: Honda Element: MPG - Real World Numbers [leinahtan] by steve_ HOST
Jun 05, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: leinahtan (Jun 05, 2008 7:18 am)

I don't much about chips - seems like they usually are sold to increase power, not mpg.
 
The manufacturers are under a lot of pressure with CAFE rules to get the best mpg they can out of their engines. I think most of the aftermarket stuff is a waste of money. The easiest way to help your mileage is to slow down.
 
Anyone try a chip?
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Re: Honda Element: MPG - Real World Numbers [leinahtan] by alamocity
Jun 05, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: leinahtan (Jun 05, 2008 7:18 am)

Recently saw on the local news a story on hydrogen cell technology that sounds promising in improving fuel economy. Technology is currently being tested at Southwest Research so it will be interesting to see what the results will be.
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Re: Honda Element: MPG - Real World Numbers [steve_] by kilo57
Jun 11, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 11, 2006 1:38 pm)

I've owned a '94 for 3.5 years now. I'm a Realtor in Huntsville, AL, use it for work (really!) and have already put 90,000 miles on it. It has never missed a beat. For more than 3 clients I tag-team with my wife and use her Odyssey.
 
Mileage - consistently 23 in town (hilly town) and 26 on the highway at 75 mph. I've done 27 mpg a few times when the road system is flatter than Huntsville. When the mileage slips I've learned to grab a new air filter; mileage shoots right back up. Once in a while the engine gets sluggish, which I've attributed to a bad tank of gas, and a bottle or two or injector cleaner gets things back to normal pretty quickly.
 
At 6'5" I love the head room and leg room in the Element. One tip I'll offer buyers/owners related to tires; the original equipment tires are more expensive to replace than wider tires with a slightly shorter aspect ratio (sidewall height). When the original set wore out at 30K miles I replaced them with 225/60R16 (not a perfect alternative but it works fine), I saved $100 on the set of tires and, since the car was much less likely to sway with the shorter aspect ratio, I got 45K miles out of the second set of tires. That's a huge savings for such a minor change.
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Re: Honda Element: MPG - Real World Numbers [kilo57] by stevedebi
Jun 26, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: kilo57 (Jun 11, 2008 4:31 am)

"I've owned a '94 for 3.5 years now. "
 
How many miles did that used '94 Element have? Just kidding, I assume you mean '04!
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Re: 2002 Honda Element EX AWD | 22 to 26 MPG [manchester1] by ccirelli
Jul 24, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: manchester1 (May 30, 2008 11:16 am)

This vehicles used to get a maximum of 21 mpg on the highway and about 19 in the city. I added the fuel reduction plates about a year ago and have seen a maximum of 32.5 mpg on a trip during December between Columbia, SC and Orlando. I typically run 75 - 80 mph on the highway. The air conditioning is always running, even if I have the sun roof removed when it's really hot. The plates seem to be working. $80 well spent.
 
Hi, can you please post details about these fuel reduction plates, and where you got them? Thanks!
 
Craig
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New Element EX AWD by ccirelli
Jul 24, 2008 (10:46 am)
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I've been reading through all the posts here, I have to say I am cautiously optimistic about the fuel economy on my Element. Just made the deal today, picking it tomorrow.
 
I will be tracking my fuel from the first tank, and I will post here frequently. My plans:
 
Immediately: K&N air filter; drive with "slow & steady wins the race" style; use Sunoco fuel, 87 octane; minimal AC usage.
 
Future: Switch to Castrol Syntec oil.
 
I've heard that the combination of using synthetic oil and the K&N filter will consistently yield about 10% better mileage. Remains to be seen, but that is my plan.
 
The only catch is, Honda recommends NOT using synthetic oil until the car hits 10K miles, at the earliest. I will hit that mark in about 5 months (I drive a lot..).
 
Any other thoughts or recommendations on when to begin using synthetic oil?
 
Thanks-
Craig
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Re: New Element EX AWD [ccirelli] by steve_ HOST
Jul 24, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: ccirelli (Jul 24, 2008 10:46 am)

I bet the aftermarket filter won't help any either, but you'll never know unless you run an OEM one for a while and switch them back and forth over a few thousand miles test period each. Ditto on synthetic; probably not a measurable difference on mpg.
 
Edmunds didn't find any measurable difference in mpg testing AC vs no AC. They didn't test driving with no AC and the windows up though. More here:
 
We Test the Tips
 
We Test the Tips Part II
 
Aggressive driving seems to be the real gas mileage killer.
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Re: New Element EX AWD [steve_] by ccirelli
Jul 24, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 24, 2008 10:55 am)

Hi Steve,
 
Thanks for the info & links, makes sense. I will take your suggestion and run the oem air filter through the first 10K miles, and switch to synthetic oil and the k&n together. I'm not approaching it very scientifically, but I will have a good base to compare against as you suggest.
 
One thing I have noticed in my Civic is a solid 10% increase in mpg when I use Sunoco fuel. I've compared it against Sheetz, Citgo, and a few others. Again nothing scientific - but it happens consistently enough to keep me going back Sunoco.
 
Take care,
craig
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Re: New Element EX AWD [ccirelli] by steve_ HOST
Jul 24, 2008 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: ccirelli (Jul 24, 2008 7:46 pm)

The gas stations that are hurting your mileage may be using an 5-10% ethanol blend. E10 is pretty common and is required in some states (if it's required where you are, then the Sunoco probably has ethanol too). I don't think most people experience that big a mpg hit though.
 
Is there a difference in mileage when using 10% ethanol vs. regular gasoline?
 
Sunoco is a Top Tier, but some say that's just a marketing designation.
 
Please report back as you enjoy your new ride!
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Re: New Element EX AWD [steve_] by ccirelli
Jul 25, 2008 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 24, 2008 9:52 pm)

Interesting - I learned years ago that Ethanol is added between October and April (at least in NJ / NY / PA, afaik). I always made the correlation between poorer mileage in winter to that - simply because there is a distinct and sharp decrease like clockwork, every October.
 
For example in my Civic, between April and October I would average 36mpg. Once October hits, I'm lucky if I get 32 or 33. And it's not a sharp drop in temperature, because literally one week it's high and the next week it drops... even if it's in the 50's... until mid-April again.
 
So whether my theory is accurate or not, I'm not sure. But I've always heard that Ethanol is widely known to cost us about 10% in fuel economy.
 
Picking up my Element TODAY.
 
Hey, should I pick up one of these Scan Guage devices? Thinking about it, wondering if it will pay for itself over time.
 
Thanks-

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