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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [kambei] by augustom
Aug 12, 2009 (3:25 am)
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Replying to: kambei (Jul 28, 2009 8:10 am)

The reason I say "Donīt go to Springs" is simple, 1st: you lose resale value since you are changing the original specs of the car. 2nd, The allroad, besides having the air suspension, is also a heavier car because of extra underbody protection for its off-road capabilities. If you take away the off-road capability by taking away the adjustable suspension, why then keep carring the extra weight?
The A6 Avant is exactly the same car, swapping cars makes more sence.
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [augustom] by duckrock
Aug 14, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: augustom (Aug 12, 2009 3:25 am)

Hi, I have a 2003 Allroad with 70k miles on it. I bought it for $21k instead of the $27k bluebook because the dealer and I (it had 49k miles at the time) both knew of the horrible reputation of the leaking and expensive airbags. As soon as mine started leaking, predictably at 70k miles, I immediately replaced all bags with Arnott Coil Over Spring conversion.
The residual value on allroads is horrible regardless, you have to love the car. Well, now I know that I will NEVER come out to see my left front slumping, right front slumping, rear left slumping, rear right slumping or burn out my air compressor or fry my computer because they are all GONE. If you switch cars you will pay a lot and not have the power or cool wheel flares or tough rubber bumpers. the allroad is awesome, but it has flaws and these springs fix that flaw quickly and easily. ($1050 for the springs, $400 to install at Tango in San Mateo, $85 to realign my wheels). Now if I can get that damn check engine light to go off!
peace, duck
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [duckrock] by shawn39
Aug 23, 2009 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: duckrock (Aug 14, 2009 8:07 am)

Hey Duck,
How does your allroad ride and handle now with the conversion kit? I'm considering the same thing. Have had problems with my susp. light coming one. Usually is off when I start the car but turns on and locks the suspension shortly after it makes any adjustments. I also need new rear shocks as it really bounces in the back. So I'm thinking I can switch to the spring conversion for cheaer then fixing the problem with the air suspension and then never have another air spring problem. Just wondering how your allroad handles now?
thanks
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [duckrock] by augustom
Aug 24, 2009 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: duckrock (Aug 14, 2009 8:07 am)

Sorry Duck but I still do not agree with your argument, the Air suspension is one of the great benefits of the car. If you had replaced all air springs with Arnott lifetime guarantee air springs you would spend USD 1136 instead of USD 1000, and keep the air suspension trouble free for life, and being able to raise the car in rougth terrain and lower on the highway the way it was meant to.
I guess its a matter of point of view, there are no rights or wrongs, just what one values more on this car, the looks, flares etc, or the adjustable ride height. I value the ride height adjustment because I use dirt roads to go to a weekend ranch.
 
Best of luck with the coil springs.
Augusto
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [augustom] by shebe
Aug 24, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: augustom (Aug 24, 2009 4:47 am)

Thanks for the feedback. I live in northern Canada.
Compressor was also shot.
Did like the air suspension but access to doing repairs up here can be a problem and springs are less likely to fail.
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [shebe] by duckrock
Aug 24, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: shebe (Aug 24, 2009 7:49 am)

I can see both sides. When I looked at cost, I also looked at having to replace the compressor, so the coilover springs looked better to me and I don't make it to Lake Tahoe like I used to. HOWEVER to answer the next question, the springs are kinda mushy and my check engine light is on because I unhooked the computer. Arnott has no answer for me except to live with it. And there is a mystery bump-bump when I hit bumps, so, this was not a home run.
duck
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [shebe] by shawn39
Aug 24, 2009 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: shebe (Aug 24, 2009 7:49 am)

Hey Shebe,
Where abouts in canada do you live? Have you gone to the coil over springs? I'm on the fence with what I will do. I bought my allraod and it was working fine for about 3 months. I thought I was in the clear as the guy I bought the car off of had almost $4000.00 in repairs to his air suspension so I figured it would last a while for me but I was incorrect. I'm going to get a quote to see how much my repair will cost with keeping the stock aor suspension.
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [augustom] by gerry24
Aug 26, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: augustom (Aug 12, 2009 3:25 am)

I have a 2002 allroad, I have replaced the compressor, the front air bags and now the rear air bags have started to fail. Regarding off-road capability and extra underbody protection, no such thing the front and rear skid plates are flimsy plastic, the front gril/bumber assembly is flimsy, this is not an off-road car. All said thought I still like driving the vehicle. If I could start all over I would get rid of the air shocks.
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Re: allroad 2001 Suspension [gerry24] by augustom
Aug 27, 2009 (3:41 am)
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Replying to: gerry24 (Aug 26, 2009 5:25 pm)

Gerry, as far as the underboby protection I am not talking about the skid plates, the allroad underboby is actually made of thicker sheetmetal making it heavier then the A6, 4167lbs vs 3924lbs, thats 243lbs more. My opinion is that if you could start all over again you should chose to buy an A6 Avant, same car lighter faster and with springs. I do not understand why complain about the allroad suspension if what makes the allroad an allroad is the suspension, if you take it away the car becomes an A6 or S6 Avant, but heavier.
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Pictures-c13785-2002-A6-Avant.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagons/112_0109_2002_audi_s6_avant/index.htm- l
I had a S4 Avant with the 2.7l V6, great car, but it could not drive on any dirt road, we are not talking offroad use, just dirt roads, one could feel that it was damaging the car. The allroad has the advantage of higher ground clearance when needed, and when loaded it keeps the same ride height not true with springs.
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arnott conversion kits by art65
Aug 29, 2009 (9:46 am)
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I had the Arnott $1,000 conversion kit installed and the only suspension problem appears to be the thud it makes when going over significant bumps or pot holes. Any solutions?
 
Thanks
Art65

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