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Pontiac Vibe, Hatchback, Wagon
#384 of 399 Re: Vibe 2.4L $16.5K OTD [gflights]
Jul 21, 2009 (2:27 am)
I'm assuming the msrp is about 21000. This is a good deal on this vehicle. I'm sure we are talking about an 09.
Congratulate yourself for not voluntarily being on GM's leash with the GM card. Cards with cashback you can spend on anything or low interest rule. Having GM "allow" more points on heaps they need to move, and limiting points on hot models was for the birds. (as is GM itself now)
White Manual Vibe with Anti-theft, 2.4L, A/C Front/rear vents, $150 audio system and that is with all discounts and negotiations in Burlingame, CA. I have not ever had a GM car in my life nor had I accumulated any of those 'GM Points' or what not.
Good or sour deal?
The car was just delivered from another location and I can possibly refuse delivery, or not.
$16.5K puts the actual car price ~$14.5K because 9.25% tax, license and registration neared $2K
#385 of 399 Good price on a 2009 GT?
Jul 27, 2009 (5:50 pm)
I've gotten an offer from the dealer on a 2009 GT with Automatic and A/C. Credit union members get "Supplier pricing" + $250 cash back. The OTD offer was $20,583. This includes about $1500 in tax, title and transfer fees plus $2750 in rebates. The dealer also included $915 in "Event Savings". It's not clear from the dealer site what that includes.
Going by Edmunds, Invoice + Destination - Holdback should be about $21,200 before rebates. With $2750 in rebates + $915 in "Event Special", is $17,535 a reasonable price to start as my base before factoring in dealer profit? Also, there's a $500 manufacturer to dealer incentive through the end of the month.
#386 of 399 Destination Fee question
Jul 27, 2009 (5:52 pm)
Some of the local dealers have 2009 GTs for sale as new that came from other dealers out-of-state. They all include the destination fee on the window sticker. But wouldn't that have been paid by the first dealer? If so, does that mean that can be negotiated as part of the price?
#387 of 399 Re: Destination Fee question [novidriver]
by kyfdx HOST
Jul 28, 2009 (3:53 pm)
The destination fee is part of the price... If the first dealer paid it, then you can guarantee that the next dealer paid the first dealer the full amount that they were out on the car...
In other words, the second dealer's cost is the same as the first dealer..
#388 of 399 Re: Destination Fee question [kyfdx]
Jul 28, 2009 (4:51 pm)
"In other words, the second dealer's cost is the same as the first dealer.."
Sure. I get that. But normally destination is considered non-negotiable. In this case, I'm wondering if it can at least be negotiated since it's no longer "required"? I also noticed that the out-of-state cars have lower MSRP. Is that an indicator that they have been sitting around for a while (besides having come from out-of-state)?
#389 of 399 Re: Destination Fee question [novidriver]
by kyfdx HOST
Jul 28, 2009 (4:55 pm)
The destination is broken out.. but, it isn't paid separately... It's just part of the price of the car... like the base price, or any option..
Out of state cars having a lower MSRP? Two possibilities...
Older inventory, before a price increase..
Or... PZEV cars sometimes are priced about $200 more vs. non-PZEV cars.. These are usually found in CARB states.. Not sure if this even applies to Vibes (or even if a CARB state could sell a non-PZEV car.
#390 of 399 Re: Destination Fee question [kyfdx]
Jul 28, 2009 (5:07 pm)
OK. I'm sure the dealers would balk at giving up the destination charge but I can always ask.
I'm pretty sure that those lower MSRPs are from older inventory.
#391 of 399 Re: New Rebate for 2009 [fmtn_tiger]
Aug 02, 2009 (8:12 pm)
Wow...even lower than in July? I paid 13,400 for a 09 hot red metallic Vibe 1.8 liter manual trans just last Thursday!
#392 of 399 2010 Vibe AWD
Aug 03, 2009 (7:23 pm)
I'm trying to work out a deal for a 2010 Vibe w/ sun and sound, chrome wheels, cargo cover, fog lights. Dealer took $1500 ($500 cash back + $1,000 for four "$250 coupons" he can give away) off the "supplier price" of $23418. So, I'm looking at $21,918 - less $3500 for CARS program, $1,000 GM Card earnings, and $750 for USAA member discount... for a grand total of $16,668 + MD 6% tax and fees.
After reading some of the forums, I'm thinking I should counter the supplier starting price with something closer to $22,000, even though Edmunds TMV is $23,170 (which is only $248 less than dealer's supplier price). Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
Aug 04, 2009 (11:27 am)
Build your car using this site so that you can see GMS (employee) pricing. Compare the employee pricing with the supplier price before any rebates. The $500 from the dealer is standard. The $1000 is not so that's something to keep in mind when comparing prices as that's money they are giving that you don't have to give up. When I was comparing supplier to employee pricing on the 2009s, there wasn't a huge gap between the two, about $400.