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Toyota Matrix, Transmission, Wagon
#460 of 573 R.I.P. Matrix
Jan 03, 2011 (10:19 am)
I was one of the first to post in this thread. (Post #17 http://bit.ly/ijWmIw). At the time I guessed more of this would crop up. There are now 460 posts in this thread and Toyota has yet to acknowledge a problem.
I am sad and disheartened because I love the Matrix. I love its size, fuel economy, functionality, and Toyota's commitment to hybrids and less emissions.
However, in the last three and a half years I drove my Matrix less and less (barely 60,000km, compared to 108,000km in first 3.5 years) because I feared the transmission would break down again. I didn't trust my car.
I have told my story to anyone shopping for a car. A grown adult will only buy an average of what? 9 cars in their lifetime? Toyota decided that they would rather dismiss the problem than have me buy a Toyota ever again. Damage like this can't be undone.
My Matrix was recently hail damaged beyond repair and I had to find a new car.
I voted with my wallet and bought a 2010 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS Sport
#461 of 573 Meet Latest memeber of the Toyota matrix manual transmission failure club
Jan 11, 2011 (8:01 pm)
Wow! Had no idea that these manuals were so bad on these cars! To make a long story short bought my '04 matrix used with 110,000 miles on it. Previous owner took meticulous care of if and supplied all paperwork down the the oil changes. Had the transmission(manual) serviced 6 months ago. just normal routine stuff fluid exchange & filter. Never had any probs! I'm just way on top of maintaining a good running car as most of you are I'm sure. I hate car payments & leases...just need a A to B work car...
On my way home today(during a blizzard mind you) It started making god awful noises from the gearbox I assume. got about 2 blocks from home & the thing totally seized up!(engine still purrs) can't even push the car with it in neutral!! this car only has 128k on it now. my first Toyota(my first foreign car actually) & I'm less than impressed so far. Pretty pissed actually. Was expecting at least 200k before sinking any $$ into it! I always heard Toyota quality was second to none? I drove rusty beat up escorts & oldsmobiles & always got 200k out of those with minamal maintenance. had the matrix towed to the tranny shop here in downtown Detroit Michigan. what is the average cost of a rebuild? is it even worth it? I really liked the car! it was pretty functional/useful & got a good 35mpg. Out of it... from what I am reading I guess this is a very common issue. and it's not a cheap fix I'm hearing..any suggestions?
#462 of 573 Re: Meet Latest memeber of the Toyota matrix manual transmission failure club [krackermost]
Jan 12, 2011 (4:53 am)
Ouch! That is the worst I've heard. They usually make some growling noises before complete failure. I caught mine in time and got a local repair shop to replace a failed bearing inside plus install a new clutch for about $1100.
Unfortunately, this transmission is not rebuildable. De3signed as a throw-away. You better find $3000=$3500 for a new one.
Toyota says they have no knowledge of these failures. What a lie. Another reason not to buy another one.
PS: My brother had a rod let go in his 2000 Camry last year at 80,000 miles. He is a very slow careful driver, so it was not his fault. Toyota blew him off. He just got another new one. I told him not to.
#463 of 573 Re: Meet Latest memeber of the Toyota matrix manual transmission failure club [krackermost]
Jan 12, 2011 (2:22 pm)
Attorney Update:::: Not good news! Just received a letter today, that they will no longer offer their services to represent everyone. I passed on all emails and notes from everyone (thanks for your support). They stated that they did not find enough evidence to have a good case (unfortunately). However, if anybody else has some attorneys that will go up against Toyota! Please let me know, because we do have rights and need to find someone who is willing to face them and let the world know about this problem just like the stuck pedals!!!
#464 of 573 My 04 Matrix Problem
Jan 13, 2011 (9:27 pm)
Hi all I have loved my Matrix 04 XR 5 speed ( bought in July 2003) No problems till after I was rear ended in 2007 ( 80,000 miles) where I noticed the growling noise that you all have been talking about. My mechanic told me it was the transmission and my heart sank ..... The bearing needed to be replaced on the back end of the transmission and a new clutch ( just becasue it was all apart) . $2,200 ( the mechanic chalked it up to the accident... insurance paid).
Lets move forward to 6 months ago
The Car started making the same noise!!! I was concerned at 130,00 miles and brought it to the transmission guy that did the work. he siad that the bearing was probably starting to wear but no major concerns. If the noise gets louder than we can always open it up for $2500.
Last week I was driving home from VT and it felt like the transmission droped out of the car DOA in 1,2,3, gear, with bearly able to get it in to reverse.
Many repair options , new trasmission, $4,00 rebuilt ( cant find it) or salvage $1500-$2000. The problem is after all the posts I have read I cant see spending the money to have the same problem happen again , and who knows how long it will last.
My Family has been buying toyotas for years , my brother has an Avalon with 200,000 miles still going strong.
I feel that I go screwed by toyota becuause I even mentioned it mult times to the dealer and they said that this is a very odd problem that could not be common, or blaimd it on the accident.
Good luck everyone but I am going to buy a new car , it is sad that this car that I really enjoyed and loved has to come to an end by going to salvage. Thanks for Toyota not caring about their customers ! ]
#465 of 573 Another Matrix Transmission problem in Nova Scotia
Jan 14, 2011 (4:09 pm)
We had our 2004 Matrix (standard) and loved it- maintained it- has 133,000 kilometers on it. We've both driven standards for over 25 years with no issues- no problems. So experienced drivers and experienced car owners.The past two months have been a disaster. First the right caliper seized in highway driving. And this month that "noise" started.. We took it into the 'stealership" and they had no problem identifying that it was the transmission and probably the clutch slipping as well - seems like they have seen that problem before. We decided to take it to an independent garage and they confirmed it was probably a bearing in the transmission. Just turning the wheels on the hoist they could hear it. They have given us a couple of options - none of them good - They drained the fluid added Lucus transmission additive to try and quiet the bearings. They started looking for a transmission at the salvage yard the the guy said he'd love to have a truck load of Standard Matrix transmissions - he could sell them all! So bottom line is likely a new transmission + 8 hours labour or just drive it til the trany falls out and NEVER buy a Toyota again.. A real shame. Like many on the forum we have loved our Matrix but the love affair has definitely ended.
#466 of 573 Re: Another Matrix Transmission problem in Nova Scotia [tranyhalifax]
Jan 18, 2011 (1:51 pm)
Is it the same transmission in the 09 s?. I always want a manual and have never hear of a manual having more problems then a automatic
#467 of 573 Re: Another Matrix Transmission problem in Nova Scotia [gediminas2]
Jan 22, 2011 (10:38 am)
The 09 Matrix transmission is different, the shifter has longer throws than the previous model, that's why I got rid of it(07 Matrix) I might get same
throw out bearing failure in the future. My 09 Matrix is doing fine so far, the only thing in manual compare to previuos model is the shifter has longer throws than the previous generation.
#468 of 573 Re: Transmission trashed at 46k miles [robins0910]
Jan 27, 2011 (8:41 pm)
I have a 2004 Matrix XRS I bought 4 years ago. It was a lease return and has had all maintenance at the required times. I paid for the extended warranty which expired 2 months before 6th gear went out in my transmission. I was still UNDER mileage (100,000 miles) but was OVER in time for the warranty.
#469 of 573 New Member of the Toyota Matrix Transmission Failure Club
Feb 05, 2011 (7:04 pm)
I have only begun to read posts about this problem. I cannot believe it. I bought a 2003 Toyota Matrix 5 speed new in Tennessee. My first Toyota. Bought it because "Toyotas will last forever" and I liked it. Have enjoyed driving it. But at about 60,000 miles I started hearing a "rattle" sound coming from somewhere in the area of the engine. Engine purred when idle but would hear the rattle when driving. Sometimes loud and sometimes not. Took it to dealership and ask them to please drive it, find it and fix it please. They kept it overnight, acknowledged that they heard the "noise" but assured me it was nothing to worry about. Told me that some of the Matrixes will make that noise after a while. I told him it was not normal. They told me it was. Suggested I have the fuel injection system cleaned and it MIGHT quieten it down. I did. It didn't. They still told me not to worry about it. Was absolutely NOTHING to worry about. All this time, sometimes I'd hear it, sometimes I would not. Otherwise, car seemed fine. Last week, at 72,000, as I was slowing down to turn off the main highway, the rattle got LOUD, my car didn't want to keep going. Took about a minute of jerking, stopping, then going, not wanting to shift properly, all the while the rattle getting LOUDER AND LOUDER until the car jerked to a stop as I heard a popping sound. Totally locked up. Couldn't even push it in neutral. At first Toyota told me it was the clutch burned out, quoted a price of almost $1500. Two days later they called to say the transmission was gone. I reminded them about the rattle which was dismissed. Tried to insinuate it was my driving. What BS! Been driving manuals for over 30 years. Don't think so. Then I started doing my homework and cannot believe all of the incidents with these transmissions. They all point to bad bearings. If I ever get this worked out I think I'll go with Honda. or maybe a Chevy!