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#443 of 573 05 Matrix 5 speed manual
Sep 07, 2010 (10:04 am)
Just had the bearings replaced along with a new clutch at 146,000 miles. The car has been regularly serviced with probably 90% or more commuter highway miles, and my wife is not an abusive driver. Independent trans shop stated that they found the same two problem bearings that they always find, so I question some previous comments that this problem is only found with 2003 or 2004 models. Kudos to my wife for noticing the noise in the early stages and bringing it to my attention, because I certainly would not have wanted to install a salvage unit with the same potential problems, or foot the bill for a Toyota unit. Given that my past Toyota Corolla's have gone past 250,000 miles without manual trans issues, the $1450 cost didn't exactly make me happy. On the other hand, no one is going to stand behind a 146,000 mile bearing. Both trans shop tech and QA folks at the parts facility where I work felt that the bearings were simply not strong enough for the load, because they were not burnt and the fluid looked okay.
#444 of 573 bearings and start problems
Sep 27, 2010 (11:03 am)
Well I love my Matrix and really enjoy driving it. Recently at 133000kms I took it into the dealership because it has had some starting problems. it is a 6-speed manual transmission and its been getting stiffer as time goes on. I bought the vehicle back in '06 and have been told numerous times that the clutch needs to get redone but I'm not hard on my car at all. I see that the bearing problem is quite pervalent in these models but is there any start problems that anyone has noticed? was quoted by Toyota 6400, OEM transmission and clutch... I don't think so. Taking off the hoist and going to Wilson's to see what they can do, I only want to pay a grand tops. Looks like its going to be close to that just for the labour hours. Screwed over
#445 of 573 Re: 05 Matrix 5 speed manual [lyndon5]
Sep 29, 2010 (5:31 am)
Glad to hear you caught it before big damage was done. I also have a 2005 5-speed (only 72K miles) and was wondering what the noise was like so I'll know what to listen for.
My car has so far been completely trouble free (knock on wood) and averages 34 to 38 MPG depending on the highway/city mix.
#446 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix - Another Transmission Issue Case - Canada [marjo]
Sep 29, 2010 (7:38 am)
My Matrix is a 2007 with 146,000 km. I'm located in Nova Scotia.
The Transmission is ruined. I paid the $3000 for the super extended Warranty and I did all of the service that was communicated to me by Toyota and more.
Toyota Will Not Honor the Warranty.
Toyota will do nothing for me. They are Scum.
I have two Toyotas, Both are for sale. I'm finished with Toyota.
Some interesting Facts about my case:
1. Toyota never gave me an Owners manual or an Owners manual supplement when I purchased the car New. They said they were out and that they would order one for me. I have never recieved either.
2. If I lived in Maine or Alaska or Texas, I would never need to replace the oil in the Transmission as it is only required to check the level if the car is purchased in the states.
3. Toyota knows this is a problem.
4. They've been trying to hide it for 7 years.
5. There is a recall against my Car which Toyota did not inform me of. I had to find it on the internet.
6. There are 11 Technical Service Bullitens on my car, of which Toyota informed me of NONE.
I say we launch a class action suit against Toyota. They deserve it. My new Hobby is causing problems for Toyota. I should have some time to commit to my new hobby as I no longer can drive anywhere.
Here is my first Idea:
All of you, Go to your local Toyota Dealer on Saturday. Hang around looking at cars, If a sales guy approaches, Tell him you're not decided yet, you're just thinking about trading up. If a Customer approaches you, Tell him your story and tell him to Run! We'll beat the buggers by Attrition. This won't help in making Toyota pay for your Tranny but it will be satisfying when you turn away a customer, or save some innocent consumer the trouble you suffered. If there are twenty of you at that dealer, Try not to congregate or form an angry Mob. That could look bad for our case.
Don't get Mad, Don't get Even. Ruin Them!!!
#447 of 573 Re: Automatic Transmission Problems Anyone? [hillhum]
Oct 18, 2010 (12:25 pm)
Hi. I have an 04 matrix with the dreaded tranny death rattle. Dealer wants to put in a new one. This TSB would help me a great deal of you still have it. Thanks!
#448 of 573 Re: bearings and start problems [orchid159]
Oct 18, 2010 (12:56 pm)
As posted earlier, I also have the 6 sp stick (75,000 miles). I bit the bullet last week and had the cutch replaced by an independent repair shop at a cost of $880. I really shopped around and the range of quotes from well regarded independent shops was $880-975. All of them said it would have been a $450 job if not for the need to hoist the engine.
Mega A-Hole KEYES Toyota quoted $2400. Did I mention A-Hole KEYES? That's K-E-Y-E-S. AVOID!
The shop that did the work did not adjust the freeplay properly and I pointed that out. They responded that it should be normal, but would be happy to hear a second opinion. I went to a Toyota dealer (NOT KEYES - I did mention them, rght?) and had them take a look. The dealer adjusted the freeplay for free and now all is well. The shop that did the replacement offered to pay for the adjustment.
FYI the shop that did me right was Auto Stiegler in Reseda. Speak to Johnny.
NO THANKS TO TOYOTA AND A SPECIAL GO EFF YOURSELF TO THE USLESS SERVICE MANAGER AT KEYES TOYOTA. THE ONLY THING THEY MANAGE IS TO AVOID HAVING TO STEP UP.
#449 of 573 Re: rattles [jnr1]
Oct 29, 2010 (11:08 am)
I have a 2003 Matrix (automatic) and that has never happened to me, but at 163k miles, my SECOND transmission just gave out on me. Now, I am going to sell. Prior to the Matrix, I had a Paseo that went to 265k miles without these problems. I think older Toyotas are better than the newer ones.
Nov 14, 2010 (9:42 am)
Well my 2003 matrix 5speed just died with just under 93,000. It made some weird noises that vibrated the car at about 90,000, then took it into the dealer. They said they couldn't reproduce it and everything was fine.
Later it came back and did it in every gear (previously only in 1 and 2, maybe 3). I was going to take it in but it went away. I had a dry-bearing/rattling sound I noticed in the past few weeks. Then today while driving on the highway in fifth, there was a high pitched whine which got worse as I drove. Finally stopped and the transmission lost a few gears and barely drives. Reverse is gone.
I'll have to see how much it is going to cost to fix but looking at $3000+ with new clutch and flywheel (if I do it myself), which is really worth more than the car. I'll see how much the stealership wants to charge me tomorrow
#451 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix - Another Transmission Issue Case - Canada [hatetoyota]
Nov 14, 2010 (11:31 am)
Wow, can't believe the problem continues into 2007 models. Definitely cannot ever buy a Toyota again. Also might have to dump my boyfriend who works for Toyota since he claims to know nothing about this shit. Of course he has never driven a Matrix for more than 6mths, so doesn't have to worry about having his car die in the middle of a highway at 5y of age.
#452 of 573 Re: Transmission Noise [hiddot84]
Dec 01, 2010 (4:38 pm)
I had this same problem with my 2003 corolla s with 83k. The manual 5 speed went bad, making noise going down the road. It seemed like I only herd the noise when i let off the accelerator at any speed and in any gear also almost every gear would grind with full clutch petal. So..... I knew this was not normal, so I pulled the tranny out of my car and sent it to the shop to save labor. Well for some reason the clutch was shot, throw out bearing was ok. When the tranny was finished the guy told me the input and output shaft bearing were totally shot, which caused a domino effect throughout the whole tranny and jacked everything else up in there. So $870.00 Im scratching my head later.