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#436 of 573 2003 Matrix Transmission "issue"
Jul 08, 2010 (6:49 pm)
I recently noticed a strange extra noise in my engine as I shifted through my 5 speed manual transmission. My car is the 2003 model with 92500 miles on it. A brother -in-law happens to be a Honda mechanic at the local dealership and upon riding with me determined it was a bearing noise in the transmission. His buddy at Toyota across the street says local Toyota dealer has "replaced" 10 manual transmissions in this Matrix series in the past couple of years. A bigger dealership 40 miles away denied knowing of any problem in these Matrixes and offered a free diagnosis. After riding with their mechanic and demonstrating the noise (which he really couldn't "hear") and after looking at the car up on a lift they concluded my tranny is solid and that the clutch is showing wear. I have not noted any difficulty or change in ability to shift, but the noise is a low purring sound and at lower speeds in lower gears reminds me of a Peterbilt semi in idle...Initially, I thought it was an exhaust problem but brother mechanic says no way. After the clean bill of health I sought info on a trade at the same dealership and they offered me 5 grand for the old dog. I really enjoyed this car, but after reading the 400 some threads on matrix transmissions, I think I am going to jump on the trade and get out from under this car ASAP. Any more recent news on government intervention re: this tranny issue? BTW: neither Toyota dealer will offer any "help" with paying for the fix on the transmissions without an official bulletin or recall, they will take no responsibility for it. I was very surprised at the diagnosing dealership's high offer for my trade however...makes me wonder a bit. Are they that desperate to keep me as a customer or are they just that desperate to sell my trade and make money off of the poor schmo that buys this lemon freak car???
#437 of 573 Another premature Matrix clutch failure
Jul 20, 2010 (6:36 am)
2003 XRS 6 speed.
Clutch started slipping within the first 20K. Now at 75K it feels like 200. Brought it to the dealer several times. "No problem". Thanks Keyes Toyota. Y'all come back real soon!. If 75K sounds low, it is. We baby this thing.
My wife and I have been driving sticks forever. Her last car - Tercel - had 190K on the original clutch which was still going strong when we sold it. Somehow our gross incompetence is to blame for this. I don't think so. I had a hunch the car was too heavy for the transmission.
Now the wife hears a muffled rattle that I don't hear. Glad I found this forum, Will be calling Toyota today.
PM me or respond here if you want more info or if there is really a class action to join.
#438 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix Transmission completely trashed @ 62K [crimson_steve]
Jul 30, 2010 (3:50 am)
Steve, I had the same problem. I had the 03 Matrix SR with Automatic Transmission and babied the bejeesum out of it, inclusive of tune ups, oil changes etc. Out of no where after 138K (94% highway) miles, the transmission SUDDENLY dropped out of use...I still had 4400K left on the loan to pay off. I ended up getting towed to the local Toyota dealer and they said it would cost 4800 to fix it. That being said, put the proverbial bullet into the entire engine and I ended up buying a new FJ Cruiser. I wonder if there is a way that considering all of the owners here having a consistency issue in the drive shaft/transmission might have a notion for a class action law suit towards Toyota. I have been a 18 year Toyota customer, but it seems that this "shafting" is wayyy to common for this owner to take. Get back to me if you have an opinion please.
#439 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix Transmission completely trashed @ 62K [jtma1]
Jul 30, 2010 (5:29 am)
How often did you get the transmission fluid changed?
Every 30K miles is optimum.
Steve (from 3 years ago) had a manual transmission with a failed bearing.
What part(s) failed in your auto trans?
Aug 08, 2010 (9:44 am)
I just changed the trans oil in my '06 Matrix 5-speed at 21K miles.
It was pretty dark, with a metallic sheen and a slightly gritty feel.
Seemed in worse shape than the trans oil in my previous Hondas after 30K miles.
In hindsight I would have changed it at 10K miles.
I plan to change it every 30K from now on.
I refilled with Valvoline 75W-90 (dino).
I think it was $12 well spent.
#441 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix Transmission completely trashed @ 62K [jim19a]
Aug 17, 2010 (5:57 pm)
My 03 toyota matrix transmission went caput last friday.
51k miles on the clock. bought it brand new from toyota in caldwell nj in 03.
aamoco want $3900 to fix.
Toyota and aamoco...steer clear of both companies if u know whats good 4 u
#442 of 573 Re: 03 Matrix Transmission completely trashed @ 62K [manvee1]
Aug 18, 2010 (8:02 am)
Automatic or manual?
Yes, stay away from AAMCO (All Automatics Must Come Out)
I'm curious, did you ever have the transmission oil/fluid changed?
#443 of 573 05 Matrix 5 speed manual
Sep 07, 2010 (10:04 am)
Just had the bearings replaced along with a new clutch at 146,000 miles. The car has been regularly serviced with probably 90% or more commuter highway miles, and my wife is not an abusive driver. Independent trans shop stated that they found the same two problem bearings that they always find, so I question some previous comments that this problem is only found with 2003 or 2004 models. Kudos to my wife for noticing the noise in the early stages and bringing it to my attention, because I certainly would not have wanted to install a salvage unit with the same potential problems, or foot the bill for a Toyota unit. Given that my past Toyota Corolla's have gone past 250,000 miles without manual trans issues, the $1450 cost didn't exactly make me happy. On the other hand, no one is going to stand behind a 146,000 mile bearing. Both trans shop tech and QA folks at the parts facility where I work felt that the bearings were simply not strong enough for the load, because they were not burnt and the fluid looked okay.
#444 of 573 bearings and start problems
Sep 27, 2010 (11:03 am)
Well I love my Matrix and really enjoy driving it. Recently at 133000kms I took it into the dealership because it has had some starting problems. it is a 6-speed manual transmission and its been getting stiffer as time goes on. I bought the vehicle back in '06 and have been told numerous times that the clutch needs to get redone but I'm not hard on my car at all. I see that the bearing problem is quite pervalent in these models but is there any start problems that anyone has noticed? was quoted by Toyota 6400, OEM transmission and clutch... I don't think so. Taking off the hoist and going to Wilson's to see what they can do, I only want to pay a grand tops. Looks like its going to be close to that just for the labour hours. Screwed over
#445 of 573 Re: 05 Matrix 5 speed manual [lyndon5]
Sep 29, 2010 (5:31 am)
Glad to hear you caught it before big damage was done. I also have a 2005 5-speed (only 72K miles) and was wondering what the noise was like so I'll know what to listen for.
My car has so far been completely trouble free (knock on wood) and averages 34 to 38 MPG depending on the highway/city mix.