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#272 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [mjrunnr] by maturco Feb 24, 2009 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: mjrunnr (Feb 24, 2009 12:24 pm) See my post #228. I would not buy it without a transmission warranty through at least 100,000 miles. Replies to this message: nippononly (Feb 25, 2009 1:33 pm)
#273 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [mjrunnr] by canonlaw Feb 24, 2009 (4:45 pm)
Replying to: mjrunnr (Feb 24, 2009 12:24 pm) The XRS transmission doesn't seem to have the same problems that the the base and XR 5-speeds do. The main problem with the XRS seems to be the clutch failing VERY FREQUENTLY....like every 30,000 miles or so.   I still would agree with the previous poster though, and only buy it if it has a 100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain. And if the clutch fails, put a beefier aftermarket one in it.
#274 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [maturco] by nippononly Feb 25, 2009 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: maturco (Feb 24, 2009 12:45 pm) The problem transmission is the 5-speed manual, not the 6-speed. The 6-speed is straight out of the Celica GT-S, and I have never read an owner complaint about that transmission except the ones who skip-shifted it by mistake (the gates are close together) and consequently blew the engine.
#275 of 356 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE by keilse Mar 08, 2009 (2:36 pm)
100,000 + miles...I have experienced the loud noise and the chirping oin my 5-speed. We changed the gear oil and it helped for a while, and two days ago we cannot get her into gear and it's whining loudly. I want to know what needs to be replaced: the transfer case, or the manual transaxle. Either way, it's going to be EXPENSIVE. Once I remedy this problem, can I definitely expect to have it occur again? Replies to this message: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) aliensurfer (Mar 09, 2009 3:26 pm) keilse (Mar 09, 2009 3:47 pm)
#276 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [keilse] by jamborski Mar 08, 2009 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: keilse (Mar 08, 2009 2:36 pm) What year is your Matrix? I'm assuming it's a FWD since it's a 5 speed and therefore you don't have a transfer case. So unfortunately you've just joined the long list of victims of Toyota. Your Tranny is shot. I recommend putting an overhauled tranny in. I purchased one from Anaheim Gear with a one year warranty for $1,000. they say there's only a few bearing manufacturers for most trannys and Toyota must have got a bad batch installed. I don't recommend a factory new Tranny unless you know for certain that it was made recently and does not fall into that bad batch of bearings. I spent about $200 for a new clutch and other misc. parts and did all the work myself, I figure $1200 isn't all that bad, but it was a big job, especially if you only have one car like I did, I ended up buying a second vehicle so I had something to drive while I worked on the Matrix.   Good Luck getting her back to life Replies to this message: aliensurfer (Mar 09, 2009 3:26 pm) keilse (Mar 09, 2009 3:47 pm)
#277 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [jamborski] by aliensurfer Mar 09, 2009 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) Add us to the list of failed transmissions. 2003 Matrix 5sp. 155,000km. Dealer where we bought the car, and have had serviced faithfully - including 2 transmission fluid changes - no help whatsoever. Quoted $4000 plus tax for new transmission, clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, etc. Asked about any sort of 'Goodwill' program to help with parts and/or labour and the only response was "It's got 155,000 and it's out of warranty - sorry."   Took the car to local transmission place and he removed the trans. and inspected. Found the output shaft bearing failed and parts of it were eaten up by a couple of the syncro's. Clutch only about 1/2 worn out. Quoted $2000 plus tax to rebuild with new syncro's and bearings and about $2500 plus tax to include clutch, etc... and also comes with an 18 month/unlimited mileage warranty after the rebuild.   Also asked him to use Redline MT-90 trans. fluid when finished rebuilding.   Never expected to be doing a transmission in a Toyota - especially before it would need a clutch. Most of my cars in the last 20 years have been standards and I've never even needed to do a clutch on one. Did an automatic transmission in a Bonneville last year at this time. That was not so unexpected.   I'm disgusted to say it, but we had a Neon that ended up with 230,000km on it when we got rid of it, and it never needed a new clutch or transmission. Now if you want to talk about head gaskets...
#278 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [jamborski] by keilse Mar 09, 2009 (3:47 pm)
Replying to: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) My car is a 2003. I think the clutch is ok, but everything inside the transfer case sounds like broken chunks of metal. So you recommend buying a rebuilt one? It's a big job to install yourself and requires some pretty specific tools no? Thanks so much for the response. I appreciate it!!
#279 of 356 by jamborski Mar 09, 2009 (7:09 pm)
I was able to do the job with an engine hoist, a floor jack, a LARGE Breaker bar, a large torque wrench (for peace of mind) a beefy pry bar, a few jack stands a couple ratchet straps, some blocks of wood, and a basic metric socket set, including the 33mm socket for the axle nuts. (a pickle fork would have been helpful as well). I used the engine hoist to support the engine obviously, I had a buddy help me with the removal but I was alone on the install. I ended up putting two ratchet straps from the hoist to the engine and offset the hoist so that I could add a third strap and slowly ratcheted the tranny into position. I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're not mechanically inclined
#280 of 356 Bad throw-out bearing? '05 Matrix by neo9 Mar 13, 2009 (7:54 pm)
Hey all. I bought my Matrix around two years ago almost new (11k miles). Now it has around 43K miles and the last few months my transmission has been showing increasing symptoms of unwellness. At first, the clutch just felt a bit mushy, and to what extent this feeling was real vs. my paranoia I do not know. However, now it is hard to shift gears any time the engine is cold to the point where sometimes I have to double clutch to get it into first. Also, I have noticed a sound a bit like loose metal scraping around whenever I first start up the motor on a cold day. The sound is irregular and not real imposing. It goes away whenever I push the clutch in and returns when I let it back out. Both these symptoms for the most part disappear once the car is warmed up.   At the moment I am guessing a bad throw-out bearing but I wonder what the apparent temperature sensitivity implies. This is a 2005 Matrix with only 43K on it. I've been scanning this forum and it seems for the most part these tranny problems are only supposed to occur in '03 and '04 models. Is my car proof Toyota hasn't rectified the problem? Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 14, 2009 1:00 pm) neo9 (Mar 23, 2009 6:24 pm) nippononly (Mar 24, 2009 8:09 am)
#281 of 356 Re: rattles [jnr1] by neo9 Mar 13, 2009 (8:07 pm)
Replying to: jnr1 (Apr 17, 2006 4:42 am) Any automatic transmission is supposed to shift on its own. That is what the word 'automatic' implies. Normally, if you are climbing a hill or trying to accelerate rapidly, the car will downshift into a lower gear in order to give you more torque. You do not need to shift out of drive in order for this to happen. The purpose of the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st gear settings are to give you more control over when the car shifts. For instance, automatics often won't automatically downshift to provide engine braking when you are descending a steep grade. This is why you have to sometimes put it into 2nd manually. Unless the car is downshifting into 2nd at times when it should not, such as when you are driving at constant speed on a flat stretch of highway, it doesn't sound like you have a problem.

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