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#270 of 356 Re: TOYOTA MATRIX TRANSMISSION BREAK DOWN [stebocz] by nippononly Feb 17, 2009 (9:26 am)
Replying to: stebocz (Feb 15, 2009 5:36 pm) The postings in this thread are related to problem MANUAL transmissions in 2003 and 2004 MY cars. I am not aware of any widely reported transmission problems among AUTOMATIC last-gen Matrixes like yours. So take heart and wait to see what the mechanic tells you. Good luck!
#271 of 356 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? by mjrunnr Feb 24, 2009 (12:24 pm)
Hi All, I am thinking of getting a 2004 Matrix XRS manual with 55k miles. It is a great deal and I am buying it from a reputable repair shop. They claim it is in great shape and has many more miles in it. For comparison, I am currently driving a 1996 Civic I bought new. So...is 55K too many miles to be purchasing a Matrix with? Sounds like there is a good chance of the transmission going soon? This is the 6 speed, anyone know of any other persistent problems with this make/model/year?    Thanks so much in advance.... Replies to this message: maturco (Feb 24, 2009 12:45 pm) nippononly (Feb 25, 2009 1:33 pm) canonlaw (Feb 24, 2009 4:45 pm)
#272 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [mjrunnr] by maturco Feb 24, 2009 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: mjrunnr (Feb 24, 2009 12:24 pm) See my post #228. I would not buy it without a transmission warranty through at least 100,000 miles. Replies to this message: nippononly (Feb 25, 2009 1:33 pm)
#273 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [mjrunnr] by canonlaw Feb 24, 2009 (4:45 pm)
Replying to: mjrunnr (Feb 24, 2009 12:24 pm) The XRS transmission doesn't seem to have the same problems that the the base and XR 5-speeds do. The main problem with the XRS seems to be the clutch failing VERY FREQUENTLY....like every 30,000 miles or so.   I still would agree with the previous poster though, and only buy it if it has a 100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain. And if the clutch fails, put a beefier aftermarket one in it.
#274 of 356 Re: 2004 Matrix Buy it or not? [maturco] by nippononly Feb 25, 2009 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: maturco (Feb 24, 2009 12:45 pm) The problem transmission is the 5-speed manual, not the 6-speed. The 6-speed is straight out of the Celica GT-S, and I have never read an owner complaint about that transmission except the ones who skip-shifted it by mistake (the gates are close together) and consequently blew the engine.
#275 of 356 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE by keilse Mar 08, 2009 (2:36 pm)
100,000 + miles...I have experienced the loud noise and the chirping oin my 5-speed. We changed the gear oil and it helped for a while, and two days ago we cannot get her into gear and it's whining loudly. I want to know what needs to be replaced: the transfer case, or the manual transaxle. Either way, it's going to be EXPENSIVE. Once I remedy this problem, can I definitely expect to have it occur again? Replies to this message: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) aliensurfer (Mar 09, 2009 3:26 pm) keilse (Mar 09, 2009 3:47 pm)
#276 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [keilse] by jamborski Mar 08, 2009 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: keilse (Mar 08, 2009 2:36 pm) What year is your Matrix? I'm assuming it's a FWD since it's a 5 speed and therefore you don't have a transfer case. So unfortunately you've just joined the long list of victims of Toyota. Your Tranny is shot. I recommend putting an overhauled tranny in. I purchased one from Anaheim Gear with a one year warranty for $1,000. they say there's only a few bearing manufacturers for most trannys and Toyota must have got a bad batch installed. I don't recommend a factory new Tranny unless you know for certain that it was made recently and does not fall into that bad batch of bearings. I spent about $200 for a new clutch and other misc. parts and did all the work myself, I figure $1200 isn't all that bad, but it was a big job, especially if you only have one car like I did, I ended up buying a second vehicle so I had something to drive while I worked on the Matrix.   Good Luck getting her back to life Replies to this message: aliensurfer (Mar 09, 2009 3:26 pm) keilse (Mar 09, 2009 3:47 pm)
#277 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [jamborski] by aliensurfer Mar 09, 2009 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) Add us to the list of failed transmissions. 2003 Matrix 5sp. 155,000km. Dealer where we bought the car, and have had serviced faithfully - including 2 transmission fluid changes - no help whatsoever. Quoted $4000 plus tax for new transmission, clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, etc. Asked about any sort of 'Goodwill' program to help with parts and/or labour and the only response was "It's got 155,000 and it's out of warranty - sorry."   Took the car to local transmission place and he removed the trans. and inspected. Found the output shaft bearing failed and parts of it were eaten up by a couple of the syncro's. Clutch only about 1/2 worn out. Quoted $2000 plus tax to rebuild with new syncro's and bearings and about $2500 plus tax to include clutch, etc... and also comes with an 18 month/unlimited mileage warranty after the rebuild.   Also asked him to use Redline MT-90 trans. fluid when finished rebuilding.   Never expected to be doing a transmission in a Toyota - especially before it would need a clutch. Most of my cars in the last 20 years have been standards and I've never even needed to do a clutch on one. Did an automatic transmission in a Bonneville last year at this time. That was not so unexpected.   I'm disgusted to say it, but we had a Neon that ended up with 230,000km on it when we got rid of it, and it never needed a new clutch or transmission. Now if you want to talk about head gaskets...
#278 of 356 Re: 2003 MATRIX MANUAL TRAN FAILURE [jamborski] by keilse Mar 09, 2009 (3:47 pm)
Replying to: jamborski (Mar 08, 2009 2:54 pm) My car is a 2003. I think the clutch is ok, but everything inside the transfer case sounds like broken chunks of metal. So you recommend buying a rebuilt one? It's a big job to install yourself and requires some pretty specific tools no? Thanks so much for the response. I appreciate it!!
#279 of 356 by jamborski Mar 09, 2009 (7:09 pm)
I was able to do the job with an engine hoist, a floor jack, a LARGE Breaker bar, a large torque wrench (for peace of mind) a beefy pry bar, a few jack stands a couple ratchet straps, some blocks of wood, and a basic metric socket set, including the 33mm socket for the axle nuts. (a pickle fork would have been helpful as well). I used the engine hoist to support the engine obviously, I had a buddy help me with the removal but I was alone on the install. I ended up putting two ratchet straps from the hoist to the engine and offset the hoist so that I could add a third strap and slowly ratcheted the tranny into position. I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're not mechanically inclined

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