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#231 of 356 Re: failed transmission @ 113k [burkes_r_mad] by marjo Aug 14, 2008 (5:25 am)
Replying to: burkes_r_mad (Aug 13, 2008 8:37 pm) Really sorry to hear this. Does suck. I doubt they'll do much for a second hand vehicle, but maybe you could find out what dealership it was bought and serviced at previously. See if they can do anything for you under the "goodwill program". Print off all these complaints from this website and bring it in. File a complaint with Toyota. I did in Canada, but they still have told others after me there are no complaints. We have to all keep complaining about this to Transport Canada, Toyota, NHTSA (http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm) and everyone we know. Tell everyone not to buy a 2003-4 Matrix 5spd. Anyone who still owns one should trade it in at Toyota and let them get stuck with all these lemons. I find people are still extremely skeptical because of Toyota's reputation, but that's only because their car hasn't failed YET. Happens at around 80,000-130,000km based on previous posts, almost all past warranty. I miss my Matrix, but I'll never buy another Toyota until they admit this issue.
#232 of 356 same proble here by blasttyrant Aug 25, 2008 (11:16 am)
I'm from Montreal and I just got my car back, guess I got lucky (if you can call it that) because I heard that weird sound comming from the trany early enough to get the car to the shop.   I then brought it to Toyota to get it inspected and mentionned this forum, but they denied the problem as have so many others I have read on this forum   They changed 2 bearings and charged me 1400$ ......   To top it all off, my 5 year warranty ended July 16 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I bougnt my Matrix 2004 used and not from the dealer, so I received no special treatment and got my car fixed elsewhere...   I am VERY dissapointed, this being my 1st Toyota, which I bought because of their good reputation.....   I can't really afford 1400$ right now, but what choice did I have?? Replies to this message: nippononly (Aug 25, 2008 11:37 am)
#233 of 356 Re: same proble here [blasttyrant] by nippononly Aug 25, 2008 (11:37 am)
Replying to: blasttyrant (Aug 25, 2008 11:16 am) If you were under the mileage limit on July 16, it would have been worth your while to approach Toyota and ask for a good faith repair, even though you are not a regular at the dealership. That is especially true if you are still under the mileage limit now. We are talking four weeks here...a case could be made that it was already beginning to fail before the warranty expired, and it was just attended to later.
#234 of 356 Yet another 2003 5sp transmission bearing failure by jficklin Sep 05, 2008 (8:22 am)
The output shaft bearing is my 2003 Matrix 5sp manual transmission has joined others in failing. Thanks to this forum I recognized the problem early and was able to get the transmission repaired before the bearing failed completely and took out other components. As with others I was out of warrantee (77500 miles) and Toyota made like they had never heard of a transmission failure on this vehicle. Since I do my own maintenance (faithfully and by the book) I didn't have Toyota dealership maintenance records to point to. There was no help from "customer care" at Toyota. They offered me $ 6,000.00 for my Matrix if I wanted to trade it in. I went to a transmission shop and had the transmission repaired. The output shaft main bearing was failing. The shop installed an updated bearing kit in the transmission for around $ 2,300 total (removal, disassembly, bearing kit - includes all bearings in the transmission, reassembly, new clutch, flywheel surfacing, and re installation of tranny into vehicle). They told me they could not see any lubrication issues related to the bearing or transmission case design. Their best guess: Toyota got a bad batch of bearings. The new bearings in the updated kit appear to be the same design as the old ones. Toyota dealership told them they knew nothing of an updated bearing... parts from Toyota would have to be purchased one-at-a-time thus costing 3 or 4 times as much as the kit. The kit comes from an aftermarket supplier and cost around $ 675.00. Here's hoping this thing will last... I don't want to get rid of this vehicle which gives me 38-42 mpg on the highway.
#235 of 356 Automatic transmission maintenance by nick2006matrix Sep 12, 2008 (7:35 pm)
I have an 06 base model Matrix with auto transmission. How is the trans serviced on this vehicle? Does it have a "conventional" pan and filter that is dropped and changed? Do most people just have it flushed or is there a drain plug in the trans that lets the mechanic drain the fluid and then just refill it? I would like to do some preventative maintenance since I plan on keeping the car for some time. Also, what fluid does it require, Dexron?, Mercon?, etc. Thanks! Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 15, 2008 7:23 am)
#236 of 356 Re: Automatic transmission maintenance [nick2006matrix] by nippononly Sep 15, 2008 (7:23 am)
Replying to: nick2006matrix (Sep 12, 2008 7:35 pm) The one I had was an '03, and there was a sticker right on the auto trans dipstick that said something like "no routine maintenance". I may have misread the manual, and your '06 may be different from my '03 (although they otherwise have identical powertrains), but there is no scheduled maintenance for the automatic in the Matrix.   I know that in my case I never had it changed prior to selling the car. I would imagine that if you tow with yours, that would change things.
#237 of 356 5sp to 6sp trans swap by thomas55 Sep 24, 2008 (5:08 pm)
I want to replace a 2003 matrix 5sp manual trans with a 6sp manual trans.has anyone done this and does it pose many alterations? Replies to this message: mantech (Sep 25, 2008 6:57 pm)
#238 of 356 Re: 5sp to 6sp trans swap [thomas55] by mantech Sep 25, 2008 (6:57 pm)
Replying to: thomas55 (Sep 24, 2008 5:08 pm) If you would like to swap the transmission from 2ZZGE (Xrs 6 sp) to your 2003 Matrix, that would be impossible, Since the 2ZZGE has different casing configuration,. You better replace the whole engine with transmission If you can find one.
#239 of 356 09 Matrix still having tranny issues? by poy Oct 08, 2008 (11:19 am)
Hey everybody - Spent tons of time yesterday reading about the 5-speed manual C59 transmission/bearing problems in the Matrixes of a few years ago. I started to get scared about buying a new 09 Matrix S 5-speed manual. Should I be?   I read that they started using better bearings in 05 and later. There were so many posts, but they were all from 03-05 owners, and of course the problem starts showing up about now in 09, after a few years driving it. Anyone know what the current situation is? Replies to this message: circuitsmith (Oct 09, 2008 11:55 am) jamesjr (Nov 29, 2008 5:27 am)
#240 of 356 Re: 09 Matrix still having tranny issues? [poy] by circuitsmith Oct 09, 2008 (11:55 am)
Replying to: poy (Oct 08, 2008 11:19 am) As a rule I buy cars only in the last year or two of a generation. Thus my '81, '85 and '88 Accords (still have the '88) have been excellent. My '06 Matrix has been trouble free (except for the lousy Continental tires). Consider getting an '07 low mileage Matrix instead.

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