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Toyota Matrix, Transmission, Wagon
#186 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [gmore]
Jun 30, 2008 (2:43 pm)
The bearing on the fifth gear is failing and will keep failing.
The transmission code on the 5sp is C59. Check inside of the drivers
door where it tells the date your car was made. C59 refers to the transmission
used in the car. And by the way it is the same transmission code used from
2002 to the brand new 2009. So they have not redisgned this transmission.
The expert witness said that it will keep failing. I have replaced this trans 7 times.
I have approx 535000kms on the car. I have no complaints with the rest of the
car. Just the transmission.
Basically this is a slam dunk case. Toyota on the other hand is trying anything
to get off. That is obvious. Good luck to them. But we will keep pursuing till
#187 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [gmore]
Jun 30, 2008 (2:51 pm)
If you could get W5 to the court house on July 11 then that would
be best. It is at the toronto small claims court July 11 10 am 47 sheppard
ave. east toronto 3rd floor . Any media would be good. The people
need to know what is going on.
#188 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [pannobaji]
Jun 30, 2008 (8:57 pm)
You replaced it seven times? Why would you keep doing that? That would be crazy! Did you keep putting in another transmission, or did you rebuild it?
#189 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [canonlaw]
Jul 05, 2008 (10:40 am)
I have a general question:
Is this still a problem on the 2009 XRS with a 5 speed auto as I was just about to purchase this car but now I am verrrrry worried.
any info would be helpful
#190 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [jliberi]
Jul 05, 2008 (10:48 am)
I think it is too new to know for sure. Someone here posted that the manual transmission part code is the same in the 09s as it is in the 2003, although they could have updated the failing parts like others have suggested. If it were me, I don't know that I would get the XRS, simply because they seem to not be able to handle their own power, at least the MT ones can't. I would, however, get a new Matrix S (is that the same as the XR?)
#191 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [canonlaw]
Jul 05, 2008 (10:58 am)
I am looking at the auto trans not the manual.
is it only the 5 speed manual that is having this problem?
what do you mean by "not be able to handle their own power"? is the car rolling or becoming unstable?
#192 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [jliberi]
Jul 05, 2008 (11:10 am)
I think you will find that the '09 XRS uses the Camry powertrain in its entirety, not the transmissions that are mated with the 1.8L engine in the '03-'08 Matrix.
As such, you should have no particular cause for concern. If you research 4-cylinder Camrys, you will find nothing out of the ordinary with regard to problems with engine or transmissions.
#193 of 573 Re: toyota matrix transmission failure court hearing [nippononly]
Jul 05, 2008 (11:16 am)
Do you know this to be fact?
If so, that is good to know as I am looking at the 2.4 liter engine.
Jul 05, 2008 (3:20 pm)
Sounds like there is some Asian denial going on here. Fear not!!! I had mega problems with an 92 Camary (that was the first front wheel drive Camary). Everyone was just acting as if Toyota's were so so reliable and this just couldn't happen. Now I see that there is data out there which is consistent with the 92, 93, 94, 95 are just pieces of fecal matter. With all the hype about Japanese being superior, even that has gone to their head. they claim that if the car has one defect off the assembly line (at the Camary plant), IT CRUSHED. Well they missed one in 92.........lol
Prior I had a 79 Celica and an 82 Supra. Both were awesome and built to foster brand loyalty. However, since that 92 Camary, I won't buy another Toyota. They never admitted to their errors and their egos have gotten bigger ever since. Toyota is living on a past reputation and we all know that catches up with them soon. Toyota or Lexus, they don't have transmissions which they would warranty for 200,000 miles, which they claim is low mileage for their product. Neither will after market warranty companies take that risk.
#195 of 573 Re: Asian mentality [dallasdude1]
Jul 05, 2008 (4:18 pm)
I have a 94 Camry V6 LE with 94K+ miles. I have had some problems in the last few years that have been not cheap to fix: water pump seal leak and the ABS actuator failed. They had to replace the front calipers and rotors when they did the ABS as there were problems with the calipers seizing. The card had been through 12 Illinois winters where copious quantites of salt are used instead of plowing the streets.
You see lots of high milage 92-96 (or whatever year models had the similar trunk lid lighting system) still on the road in Illinois and Pennsylvania where we live now.