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| My wife and I are close to buying a Tacoma, however, my wife thinks that being too high above ground the truck is liable to turn over easily. We are both senior citizen and she is little concerned, and I'm fine with it. My question: Is this the new fashion/style for all pickup trucks or is't just Toyota. We live in a tiny town and Toyota is just about the only thing around, also, is there any issue of worrying that the truck could easily turn over. Your detailed answer is very much appreciated. | |
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Replying to: lazarous (Dec 08, 2005 1:07 am) I have always admired Toyotas reliability, however the company is expanding by leaps and bounds and I always believe quality control would never be the same.I have personally witness an old Toyota Corona breaching 750,000 kms, but was disappointed when an 04 Camry clocking in at 19,000 miles in arbitration because of tranny metal grating problems which no delearship can repair. ALTHOUGH THIS MAY BE AN ISOLATED CASE, PRIUS RECALLS HAVE REINFORCED MY SUSPICION THAT TOYOTA THE GIANT COMPANY AINT AS RELIABLE AS WHEN IT WAS PRODUCING LESS CARS AND OWNED THE BENCHMARK FOR QUALITY CONTROL. Finally, let me say I'm bias to Hondas because I like their fair treatment to all buyers by making almost all the safety features for every car model they sell available on the strip and top of the line models. Toyota on the other hand will force you to buy the top of the line models if you want the safer model.The V4 Tacoma for instance doesn't come with side and curtain airbags, and it's difficult to get a V6 Tacoma (in Maryland)with the Side and Curtain airbags.SIMPLY PUT TOYOTA COSTUMERS WITH LESSER MONEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A SAFE VEHICLE COMPARED TO MONEYED BUYERS. As a healthcare personnel in the operating room , I would recommend you get the one with side and curtain airbags if you insist on the Tacoma, and that would be the top of the line models. I've seen enough accidents to last a lifetime and those side and curtain airbags are really life and limb saving and well worth it. Before I forget, the Ridgeline even on their cheapest models have identical safety features with the more expensive Ridgelines. I'ts got a 5 (the highest) crastest rating front and side. I'ts rollover percentage is 14% (the best among trucks, compare that of a Minivan the Toyota Sienna is 15%.For details check www.crashtest.com. 
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Replying to: lazarous (Dec 08, 2005 1:07 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 21, 2005 1:25 pm) I spent a LOT of time debating between the Tacoma and the Ridge. I have owned 3 Hondas, and our family has nothing but Hondas and BMWs. I love Hondas, and know the owners of the Honda & BMW dealerships I buy from. I searched the web for every single comparison I could find - including comments on these forums. I registered and asked questions on the Ridgeline owner's club, and Toyota Nation. I drove the heck out of both - I went to several Toyota and Honda dealers, and drove several models. I must say that after all my research and personal experience with vehicles from these companies, I knew I could not go wrong with either. I liked the ride on both. The Ridgeline was a bit smoother - but not incredibly more. The Ridgeline had a nicer interior (the leather, and nice dark finish), but the Toyota interior was very "perfect" in the location of controls, etc. Both have lots of cup holders, but the Honda has a few more cubbies. The Honda has a nice storage space created by the "pop up" back seat (the Toyota's just folds down, so you can store stuff on top - still pretty roomy). Both felt SOLID. As far as "rollovers", I drove both pretty hard. I took freeway onramps at speeds close to 50mph or more. The Honda sat nice and firm, with little roll. I expected the Toyota to experience some body roll, but I was astonished at how flat it sat! For me, I knew both vehicles were excellent, and icons of the best of the 2 best automaker's technology and skill. What it came down to for me was use. I knew both would comfortably seat 4 adults on a road-trip. Being in the Canadian Rockies, I know I'll be going hiking, taking pics, and fishing, on some mountain trails. I also know that I would use at least a 6 ft box. This made my decision easier (but by no means easy). I chose the Tacoma. It does anything the Ridge does (minus the rear trunk/swing gate), has the same quality, but also does what I need it to do - and has a long track record of being an indestructable "tough" little (not so little any more) truck, on and off the road. I can't wait to take this black TRD crew cab offroading in Bragg Creek next week! Don't worry about "rollovers". If I wanted to be an idiot driver, I could roll my 2" lowered Acura EL, or my BMW 3 coupe... I drove my Taco "briskly" and it didn't flinch. The Ridge is a great looking truck too. I was smitten by it when I first drove it. People say, "it's new/not proven", but remember - it's a Honda. Honda hasn't made a lemon in forever. Even comparing fuel economy - both are almost exactly the same.  Either way, you win. Just pick what you need.
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Replying to: goonda (Apr 06, 2006 10:01 pm) |
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I think that I really want a 2007 Tundra. However I need something to drive soon. This will be my first foreign truck. The Tacoma and the Ridgeline are at the top of my list (since new Tundra is not out yet). I have not driven either of them yet. I am already leaning towards the ridgeline though. I wonder about two things with the ridgeline. Now that the 1000 dealer cash is gone, will it be back soon? I would hate to think that I have to pay 1000 more than if I bought one 4 days ago. Second I worry about the resale value of the ridgline. I know Honda's resale is good with their cars, but this is their first truck. It has been speculated that it is overpriced and I know they have been selling for below invoice. Does this mean that there will be a quicker rate of depreciation and possibly lower resale value than that of the Tacoma? I may want to dump it in 18 -24 months and get a new tundra. I worry about resale value. This is the primary reason that I have finally decided to go Japanese. I would appreciate a response from someone with knowledge on these subjects. Thank You, SilverSVT P.S. My last truck was a 2002 Ford SVT Lightning. I loved it.
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Replying to: 55535432 (Dec 08, 2005 7:13 am) But then again the base v4 is about 13K less than the "safe" Hondas. It is simply a matter of deciding how much the buyers are going to want to spend. Pricing them lower and allowing the customer to decide how much safety he wants is what meets Toyota's target. Honda decided to price considerably higher and not leave the buyer the oportunity to choose. Guess that says that Honda thinks their customer is too stupid to make their own choice.
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Replying to: silversvt (Apr 08, 2006 1:08 pm) Now that the 1000 dealer cash is gone, will it be back soon? I would hate to think that I have to pay 1000 more than if I bought one 4 days ago. Second I worry about the resale value of the ridgline. I know Honda's resale is good with their cars, but this is their first truck. It has been speculated that it is overpriced and I know they have been selling for below invoice. Does this mean that there will be a quicker rate of depreciation and possibly lower resale value than that of the Tacoma? I may want to dump it in 18 -24 months and get a new tundra. I worry about resale value. This is the primary reason that I have finally decided to go Japanese. Up here in the Northwest, the same Ridgeline that was selling for 34K when I bought my Tacoma in August of last year is now selling for 26K or less in the 06 model. Take a wild guess of what that will do to resale prices. The same Taco is still above 28K. I just checked Kelly Blue Book, which shows I lost $1400 on mine for private party value. Think it may retain it's value quite well.
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Replying to: ustazzaf (Apr 08, 2006 6:24 pm) ------------- Guess what, a similarly priced baseline any Honda vehicle would still have more safety features than any Toyota.Toyota will only match those safety features for more dough.DON'T PLAY ME BY USING AN APPLES TO ORANGES MATCHING, PLAY FAIR AND LET'S DO AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. Guess what, everybody needs health insurance, a lot of people skimp on those few dollars because they think they don't need it. Honda kind of obligates you to get the health insurance WITH MINIMUM MARKUP because you are gonna need it one day.While you think Honda treats it's costumers as stupid, I see it as taking care of them by making some decisions for them especially when it involves life and limb. HAVE YOU EVER COMPARED PRICEWISE, FEATURE FOR FEATURE A SIMILARLY EQUIPPED RIDGELINE/TACOMA, OR CAMRY/ACCORD? HANDS DOWN, HONDA WINS, YOUR LESS SAFER TOYOTA MAY EVEN COME OUT MORE EXPENSIVE AFTER A TON OF OBLIGATORY ACCESORIES ARE FACTORED IN.I knew that Toyota con game very well because I was it's victim, I bought an 03 Rav4 because it was advertised cheaper than the CRV. Guess what, when everything was added up, I overpaid around $590 more on the Rav compared to similarly featured CRV.I got rid of that RAV4 coz of it's lack of safety features, sideairbags specifically, and it was only rated 3 stars for side crashtest. GUESS WHAT,after testing the waters of the truck market, I believe the Ridgeline will come up with more configurations to be more competetive in the market.The Ridgeline was configured as such to appeal to the most number of buyers, minimum Honda investment,and less lost to Honda if it would tank in the marketplace. Take the Pilot for example, it now comes with 2wd only mode,i'ts a tad bit cheaper now.The Civic SI will come next year with 4 doors.The Ridge is also slated to get a V8 in the next few years.Honda is a very cautious company, it won't join the fray without testing it first. By the way, try to build a Tacoma by matching everything found in a BASE Ridgeline RTS.GOOD LUCK COZ IT WILL CERTAINLY LEAD YOU TO A TACOMA COMMANDING A PREMIUM PRICE, and lets see if that 13K deception of yours would hold water. Apples to apples comparison please, don't deceive anyone by mentioning a 13k difference when you are comparing infact Donald duck and Donald trump.
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Replying to: 55535432 (Apr 08, 2006 8:09 pm) The baseline Ridgeline is 30K, while the base Tacoma is 18K. That is apples and oranges. GUESS WHAT,after testing the waters of the truck market, I believe the Ridgeline will come up with more configurations to be more competetive in the market When I went looking, Honda had a total of three configs to choose from. I don't recall seeing a 4 cyl option, 2 wheel drive or 6 speed manual option. All they had was over priced basic, overpriced mid level, and fully decked out jacked up priced car with a bed. Apples to apples comparison please, don't deceive anyone by mentioning a 13k difference when you are comparing infact Donald duck and Donald trump. I am not the one that compared the base Toy to the base Honda. I just mentioned that the base Toy has less gagets and 13K less in price. That has nothing to do with Donald Duck, but everything to do with his rich uncle Louis who was a miser.
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