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Toyota Yaris: Towing Questions

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But is the OWNER absolved?................... by daysailer
Oct 24, 2006 (6:07 am)
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In my state, contributory negligence will effectively absolve other parties of responsibility. It could well be argued that ignoring the manufacturer's recommendations for use constitutes contributory negligence. And if there were no case for negligence or illegal acts of other parties, could the towing owner be held responsible?
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Re: The fact that a 3rd party hitch is available............... [daysailer] by snakeweasel
Oct 24, 2006 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: daysailer (Oct 24, 2006 3:21 am)

I would also be concerned about warranty issues. If the dealer sees a hitch and can connect any troubles with towing they could refuse to repair it under the warranty.
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Re: Yaris, Fit, Scion xA towing? [Mr_Shiftright] by shay29
Nov 11, 2006 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 09, 2006 6:00 pm)

My owners manual for the Yaris gives towing information but only for Canada. Wouldn't think they make a different model for Canada only.
 
Bob
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Re: Yaris, Fit, Scion xA towing? [shay29] by gearhead1
Nov 12, 2006 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: shay29 (Nov 11, 2006 7:46 am)

ummmm........Don't tow with a Yaris, but it is okay to tow a Yaris.
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Re: Yaris, Fit, Scion xA towing? [gearhead1] by bobw3
Nov 13, 2006 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Nov 12, 2006 8:46 pm)

I don't know what the big deal is with towing for any car. They're designed for 5 passengers, so if you had 4, 200lb people in the Yaris (yes, not to comfortable) or you had one 150lb person towing a 500lb trailer, which would be harder on the car?
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Re: Yaris, Fit, Scion xA towing? [bobw3] by gearhead1
Nov 13, 2006 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Nov 13, 2006 7:34 am)

so if you had 4, 200lb people in the Yaris (yes, not to comfortable) or you had one 150lb person towing a 500lb trailer, which would be harder on the car?
 
The main difference would be where that wieght is located. The wieght when towing with a fit will be on the back bumper (toungue wieght)and I doubt Honda had in mind more than 200 lbs directed to the back bumper.
 
If you hook up a trailor even some of the smallest trailors, the trailor itself will probably wiegh 2-300 lbs. Once you start loading it, the wieght adds up quite quickly.
 
Although the engine would probably be okay, though struggling mightily on any sort of incline, my main concern would be damaging the transmission. There is no transmission cooler in the Fit.
 
I've seen pics of a Fit towing an ATV. It probably works, but I can't help but think that guy is slowly ripping up his tranny. I think towing an ATV behind the Fit on any sort of incline would be strongly ill advised by Honda.
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Re: Yaris, Fit, Scion xA towing? [gearhead1] by bobw3
Nov 13, 2006 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: gearhead1 (Nov 13, 2006 9:48 am)

Even though the weight of a trailer might be a total of 500lbs, there's not 500lbs pushing down on the rear bumper. Just like pulling a wagon with 100lbs is easier than carrying the 100lbs on your back. So then we're back to the towing weight being similar to the carrying capacity of the car. There would have to be someplace solid for attaching a hitch. But I doubt if the transmission would know the difference between pulling 500lbs and carrying 500lbs.
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the art of towing? by hillgrass
Dec 16, 2006 (3:20 pm)
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How the hitch is bolted to the car makes all the difference. Had an '89 F-150 with hitch attached directly to the bumper (as is intended when sold in auto parts stores) and slowly began to bend and twist and tear bumper from body of truck. If it's a customized hitch with multiple connection points, and the trailer is balanced and loaded properly in relation to car, the automobile takes almost no down force. Look at four 200lb people in a liftback (or midsize for that matter) and whole car sags. A properly laden trailer, however, set level with car, just glides along behind car. Same can be said for heavily laden panniers on a bicycle as a opposed to a one-wheel trailer behind. The former is cumbersome and the latter tracks effortlessly. The hitch and balance mean a great deal. And let's face it, after just recently testing a Yaris manual liftback, it's like a rocket/cadillac compared to my manual Festiva. See you at the RV park!
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Re: the art of towing? [hillgrass] by jnantz
Jan 28, 2007 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: hillgrass (Dec 16, 2006 3:20 pm)

I purchased a 2007 Yaris Liftback Manual in November. I purchased it with the intent of towing it as a dingy behind my motorhome. I recently had the Toyota dealer install a Roadmaster front towing bracket behind the grill, and a Hidden Hitch 1.25 inch receiver behind the back bumper. the Hidden Hitch is rated at 200/2000 lbs. It will be used, however, for a bike rack. (I have the spoiler on the top edge of the hatch which gets in the way of a strap mounted bike rack.) For dingy taillights I am using magnetic lights. I will be getting a Brake Buddy when the finances recover next month. Then I should be ready for the coming RV season. We are planning a trip to the Rocky Mtns this summer. I have not hooked up the Yaris tail lights for trailer towing, but may wish to in the future.

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