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#563 of 588 Re: Defending the Malibu ? [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 27, 2009 (8:45 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 27, 2009 7:29 am) You hit it right on the head. Detroit is always designing against the competitors LAST model, and no sooner do they do so successfully, then the competition rolls out the next generation, vastly improved. A good older example of this was the Cadillac Allante, which was designed against the already totally obsolete Mercedes 560SL.
#564 of 588 but..... by guss Jan 27, 2009 (12:37 pm)
at the time I think Motor Trend broke their Car into Import Car of the Year and Domestic Car of the Year. I agree the Malibu did not deserve an award, but in the context of 1997 it was one of the best new domestic offerings.   What else was substantially new that could of beat the Malibu? The Chrysler triplets Cirrus,Stratus,Breeze were not better,and Fords Contour/Mystique would probably be tied with the Malibu.   Would the C-5 Corvette have been out by then ? If so, then mistakes were made. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Jan 27, 2009 12:44 pm) andre1969 (Jan 27, 2009 12:50 pm)
#565 of 588 Re: but..... [guss] by kyfdx HOST Jan 27, 2009 (12:44 pm)
Replying to: guss (Jan 27, 2009 12:37 pm) 1997 was first year for C5
#566 of 588 Re: but..... [guss] by andre1969 Jan 27, 2009 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: guss (Jan 27, 2009 12:37 pm) The Chrysler "cloud cars" came out for 1995, as did the Contour/Mystique, so neither of them would have been eligible for "Car of the Year".   The Pontiac Grand Prix and Buick Century/Regal were new for 1997. I have more respect for those cars than I do the 1997 Malibu. But other than that and the C5 Corvette, I don't think there was really anything new on the domestic front.
#567 of 588 Re: Defending the Malibu ? [fintail] by xrunner2 Jan 27, 2009 (4:23 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 27, 2009 8:34 am) I had a 1995 Accord. I test drove a 1998 in Feb,1998 and traded in 95 immediately. The 1998 V6 EX or LX was great improvement over a very excellent 95 model. Every mfr was and still is chasing the Honda "standard".
#568 of 588 Cobalt SS by hpmctorque Feb 19, 2009 (10:22 pm)
I read that Chevy will discontinue the Cobalt SS. This is another example GM killing a model after they finally get it right. The SS, which is available as a sedan for '09, in addition to the coupe which was introduced in '08, is generally regarded as the best Cobalt model, by a wide margin.   This begs the question, then, of whether the Cobalt SS will one day be a collectible. It's fast, handles well, and relatively few of them will have been made before it goes out of production. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 20, 2009 8:28 am) corvette (Feb 20, 2009 10:59 am) oregonboy (Feb 20, 2009 12:18 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Feb 20, 2009 12:55 pm)
#569 of 588 Re: Cobalt SS [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Feb 20, 2009 (8:28 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 19, 2009 10:22 pm) Well it's an "interesting" car, and it goes like stink, so my feeling is that ANY car that goes fast will be somewhat collectible to someone, just for the fun value.   But the Cobalt SS does not possess a number of important traits that any "strong collectible" should have---a) loved when new by many people b) prestigious or iconic image; c) interesting or attractive styling. The only attribute it DOES have is "performance or interesting engineering".
#570 of 588 Re: Cobalt SS [hpmctorque] by corvette Feb 20, 2009 (10:59 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 19, 2009 10:22 pm) I can't imagine that developing a Cruze SS with a higher-boost turbo, revised suspension, larger brakes/wheels/tires, and body kit would cost that much. But, when you're on the dole, every expenditure will be scrutinized by the public.   If GM and Chrysler become American Leyland (government owned), they'll probably kill off anything remotely exciting, including the Corvette. Replies to this message: oregonboy (Feb 20, 2009 12:18 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Feb 20, 2009 12:55 pm)
#571 of 588 Re: Cobalt SS [corvette] by oregonboy Feb 20, 2009 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: corvette (Feb 20, 2009 10:59 am) The Corvette is an American icon. I can't imagine that it would get the ax when there are so many other easy targets. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 20, 2009 12:55 pm)
#572 of 588 Re: Cobalt SS [oregonboy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Feb 20, 2009 (12:55 pm)
Replying to: oregonboy (Feb 20, 2009 12:18 pm) It would never "get the ax". What would happen in the worst scenario is that the Corvette name would be sold off to a private concern that would continue building them.   This is probably what is going to happen to Viper---which sells only about 1/3 as many cars as Corvette.

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