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Classic Cars What Will Be a Future Classic?
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Replying to: lemmer (Jul 10, 2006 11:48 am) Not sure why this is, but ultimately, it is a supply vs. demand equation. Yes we all love the 240Z but will we pay a bundle for one? Nope.... |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 10, 2006 9:29 am) With a quick glance, not really. They seem to be selling in the $ 10-15 K range (I'm assuming decent conditions). A good depreciation rate, but certainly not collector status yet. Perhaps the truck factor is also working against it.
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Replying to: john500 (Jul 10, 2006 2:40 pm) |
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| let's suppose, way back in 1990 when I bought my '57 DeSoto, I had taken every penny I had saved up at the time, about $22K worth, and bought a '57 Chevy instead. How much '57 Chevy could that have gotten me back then? And what, about, would it be worth today? | |
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I heard that a Plymouth Barricuda recently sold for $910,000 somewhere. For some reason these 'Cudas have become some sort of a cult-collector's car. It wouldn't surprise me that the value of these drop in the future when the fad wears off. Still, a friend at work just got $30,000 for a very rusted '71 Cuda that had sat for fifteen years or so. And it was not a Hemi. Speaking of DeSotos, there is a '41 coupe for sale just around the corner from me. It's 100% and in very good unrestored condition. The seller started two years at $15K and is now down to $9800. Nice car, too. Wish I could justify the money. Regards, Dusty |
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the '71-74 Barracuda and Challenger never really turned me on. Maybe it's just because they were kind of late to the game, and seemed like a copy of the '67-69 Camaro/Firebird. I have learned to appreciate them more as the years have gone by, but I think I'd much rather have a '67-69 Barracuda, in any of the three body styles it offered. There was just something mildly exotic about them. They were also a well-enough balanced car that even a 273-4bbl or 318-2bbl could be fun, and the 340 could embarrass a few big-block cars. One of my neighbors, back in 1990, had a 1970 Barracuda hardtop for sale. I remember he wanted $4K for it. Now I'm sure that if I could go back in time and look at it, I'd see all sorts of flaws, but at the time it seemed just about perfect. I remember he wanted $4K for it. It was just a 318/automatic though, nothing really exciting. I wonder what something like that would go for nowadays? Oh, it was green, too. Kind of a light, silvery/olive green that seemed common back then. At the time I really didn't care for that color. I tended to prefer darker greens, like emerald, forest, etc, or greenish-blues. Nowadays though, I find myself more attracted to more varieties of green, as long as they're not TOO pukey!
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 15, 2006 11:54 am) I don't know what kind of rusty Barracuda could sell for $30,000 that wasn't a Hemi----maybe a 'Cuda 440, 440-6 or AAR with original VIN tags, etc. But not a 383. |
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Interesting how some cars which were so popular back in the 60's and 70's are not represented in auto shows. And the craze about HP and Hemi and such is kinda off the charts. I was driving in the latest 60's on. What I recall were a few kids that owned some hot cars, but there seemed to me to be a desire to own both sports cars and power cars. It wasn't all about hot Chevy, Chrysler/Dodge, or Fords. As I recall popular cars included the low cost Datsun 510, which is still raced for sport, the Z car which was an icon, the Porsches from 914 to 911, Dodge Dart with a slant six, MGB sports cars, Celicas, and well let's just say it wasn't all Mustangs, though I owned a '65 back in early 70's. It was a 289, but all stock. You would think about all the talk about the good ol' days, everyone owned a Shelby or a Hemi 'Cuda. Plenty of other classics, or should I say collector cars, like the Volvo sports cars, Triumphs, BMW 1600, 1800, and 2002, Csi, Mercedes Coupes, as well as, the cheap cars with a lotta heart, like Opel Manta Rallye, or Capris don't seem to make the shows. Around here, in California, the Mercedes SL convertibles of all ages seem to be really popular as daily drivers. Of the current model cars, I guess the Chrysler 300 and the Cadillac CTS come to mind as future collectables. As classics - not. If I was a multi-millionaire, I guess I would be more interested in classics, though rarity of a car is not as important to me as actually really loving the car. Would rather own a modern day Corvette than say a rare sports car which was hard to find parts for, prone to break, and unimpressive to drive. If I had serious money to invest, I guess one rare car and two fun cars, and perhaps a luxo for the cruising to round things off would be a good thing. Maybe I was not born to be a collector, as I see baseball cards as a piece of paper with a photo on it, mass produced in a print shop, and nothing more. Now it was hand painted by a famous artist? And I am happy without a Hemi. Well it wouldn't hurt I guess -- you buying the gas  -Loren
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Replying to: m1miata (Jul 15, 2006 7:30 pm) I mean, take a common and very popular car like a 1965 Mustang coupe. Today they are still plentiful and cheap. Anything....ANYTHING....with gobs of HP will always be "collectible", though not necessarily classic or high-priced in the future.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 16, 2006 7:13 am) Great handling, where it comes to classics sales is on the bottom of the list -- but why? I guess HP has bragging rights, and a good and balance, well handling car means nothing. Interesting. I suppose it is just me, but I see the previous Mustangs, not only Bullit and Boss, but all those of the Fox body as good and honest efforts. Sure the New Stang handles better, and may be stiffer and such, but it is digging so much into the replicar realm, it loses the next best look or next best rendition of the Pony, IMHO. To go back to say '69 for the exterior, then use the style of interior dash and gauges from '65 seems to me a little bit retro/replica/silliness. The gauges are harder to read anyway. And '65 was hardly the best interior styling. Actually the '94 had the look, and only need some refinement to the plastics and feel (knobs, and such). I don't think the '05 will ever be a collector car. I would go '95, the last 5.0 or '99/'04 the last of the Fox body + edge look, before considering the new ones as collectables. And yes, none are rare. Crossfire sports car may be a rare find some day. As for good looking old collector sporty cars, I do like the older Stangs, AMX/Javelins, 'Cuda and Challengers, Demons, and Dusters, Olds 442, '68 Toronado, Lotus, and well a whole lotta cars out there. In luxury, if you have a '65 Riviera, 2002 Eldorado, Mark VIII, any older BMW, and some Mercedes, they all may be seen as collectables in a few years time. Thinking about a Prelude right now. Or in buying into a luxury class the last Eldo. How can Cadillac go on without the Eldo. It is like life without Elvis. Oh yeah, life goes on. 
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