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Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit

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mazda 3 vs rabbit by steven39
Nov 16, 2006 (2:35 pm)
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i test drove a mazda 3itouring sedan among many other cars before deciding on the rabbit.i just felt that in my opinion the rabbit drove better,had more safety and convienence features for the money than the mazda 3 did,and also had a better warranty than the mazda 3.despite the better reliability rateing that the mazda 3 has,i just felt that the rabbit was a much better overall value.the mazda 3 drove a little rough for my tastes,while the rabbit had a much better ride and still handled very well.i think that the rabbit has a great balance of ride and handleing.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by aviboy97
Nov 16, 2006 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Nov 16, 2006 1:48 pm)

While I would choose a Mazda 3 over a Rabbit, I would not place any bets on a prediction that Mazda 3 would have higher reliability than Rabbit.
 

 
I would have to disagree with the end of your statement. If you look at Consumer Reports, which I have found to have quite accurate long term reliability ratings, that have the Mazda3 rated "reliable" and is a "Recommended Buy". I would say it is a bit early to say that the Rabbit is unreliable, however, their assessment of it's predecessor, the Golf, they rated that as having poor reliability, and Volkswagen rated next to last in long term reliability s a company.
 
I really do not see VW pulling a 180 in terms of reliability in the Rabbit (which it's only called in NA, still the Golf in Germany) in the matter of 1 MY.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [aviboy97] by moparbad
Nov 17, 2006 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 16, 2006 3:16 pm)

I really do not see VW pulling a 180 in terms of reliability in the Rabbit (which it's only called in NA, still the Golf in Germany) in the matter of 1 MY.
 
1 model year? Are you aware of how long the Golf (Rabbit) has been in production?
The current Rabbit (Golf Mk5) was introduced in 2003.
There are 3 years of reliability history for the current model Golf and the data is very good.
 
The new model Rabbit (Golf) is expected to debut as a 2008 model. Current Rabbit is going to have a short run in the US.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by aviboy97
Nov 18, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Nov 17, 2006 8:54 am)

I have not seen any data stating that the Golf has very good reliability.
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golf reliability by steven39
Nov 18, 2006 (9:34 am)
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vw and the word reliability do not go hand in hand.infact,vw and the word reliability should not even be mentioned in the same breath.i don't think there is any vw car be it the jetta,rabbit,passat,ect that has been given any kind of positive reliability review in recent years and the golf is no exception.there are many current and former vw owners that will agree with me.
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Re: golf reliability [steven39] by aviboy97
Nov 18, 2006 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: steven39 (Nov 18, 2006 9:34 am)

I have also seen that the Rabbit is made in Germany, not Mexico or Brazil like the previous Golf. I have also heard, believe it or not, that the Germany plant put's out less reliable vehicles then the Mexican plant.
 
One thing I have heard numerous times from almost every VW owner. Usually, they get one that lasts forever, and then the get one that is nothing but a rat trap. Total unconsistancy.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [aviboy97] by moparbad
Nov 18, 2006 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 18, 2006 7:11 am)

I have not seen any data stating that the Golf has very good reliability.
 
What data have you seen aviboy?
 
What are the differences in expected reliability or differences in past reliability of German VW Golfs and Mazda3?
 
Both vehicles have been on the market for several years so there is data for both past and current (initial) reliability.
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Re: golf reliability [aviboy97] by moparbad
Nov 18, 2006 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 18, 2006 10:30 am)

I have also seen that the Rabbit is made in Germany, not Mexico or Brazil like the previous Golf. I have also heard, believe it or not, that the Germany plant put's out less reliable vehicles then the Mexican plant.
 
I've heard that the cow jumped over the moon, does that make it believable?
 
Do you have data to demonstrate the difference in reliability of the Rabbit vs. Mazda3? Other than anecdotal or hearsay?
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Re: golf reliability [steven39] by moparbad
Nov 18, 2006 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: steven39 (Nov 18, 2006 9:34 am)

steven39 vw and the word reliability ....
 
Is there data that you could share to show the difference in reliability between Mazda3 and Rabbit?
 
Anecdotal experience is entertaining at best.
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Re: Mazda3 2.3 vs. '07 VW Rabbit, auto & manual [moparbad] by erniea1
Nov 18, 2006 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Nov 18, 2006 10:32 am)

The Consumer Reports data had the previous VW as poor reliability and the Mazda3 as good, in fact very good. I have JPegs of these pages. Can you post them here?

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