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#82 of 389 Re: I just did [eldaino] by backy Nov 09, 2006 (1:36 pm)
Replying to: eldaino (Nov 09, 2006 1:28 pm) Tirerack.com
#83 of 389 Re: rabbit vs corolla [eldaino] by steven39 Nov 10, 2006 (1:00 pm)
Replying to: eldaino (Nov 09, 2006 10:50 am) i agree with daino,in that you can't choose a car based on reliability alone,otherwise you are missing the boat.i test drove and compared the following vehicles before deciding on my 07 rabbit 4dr....corolla,accord,camry,and prius just to name a few.while these cars have a very good track record as far as reliability and dependability are concerned i bought the rabbit because i felt it offered the most features for the money.and it also drives very nice,handles very well,and doesn't look as boreing as the other cars.as far as how well the rabbit will hold up over time remains to be seen.but,my initial impressions of the rabbit thus far with only 1,000 miles on it so far is that it is a very solid, well built car that has a lot of safety and convience features for the price,is fun to drive,looks great,and is a real value.these were the things that i could not find with the other cars i test drove.just my opinion here though. Replies to this message: eldaino (Nov 13, 2006 7:50 am)
#84 of 389 To me... by bodble2 Nov 10, 2006 (1:14 pm)
some small, and some not-so-small details puts the Rabbit above the other entry-level cars that it is often cross-shopped against, such as the Civic, Fit, Corolla, etc.   Things like a available 6-speed automatic, traction/stability control, the quality of the seat material, a gas strut instead of a prop-rod for the hood, standard factory alarm system, etc.   As I said, some people could care less ahout those items, but to me, they mean something.
#85 of 389 07 rabbit 4dr by steven39 Nov 10, 2006 (1:25 pm)
just a follow up here to my previous post.i traded in a 06 honda civix ex 2dr for my 07 rabbit 4dr.the reason i traded it in was because my g/f is going to have a baby and we need a 4dr car.anyway,i said to my self that it was going to take one hell of a car to pull me out of my honda civic.well,the rabbit was that car.while the civic got better gas milaege than the rabbit the rabbit is more spacious,faster,and came in a very close 2nd to the civics handleing which was very good.the interior materials in the rabbit was way better than in my civic's.and finally,my rabbit just feels much more solid than my civic ever did.i don't miss my civic at all except maybe for the better gas milaege.but the tradeoff in haveing more space,faster performance,and a more solid feeling car is worth it in my opinion.
#86 of 389 prop rod by steven39 Nov 10, 2006 (1:34 pm)
it's funny that you should mention prop rod.one of the cars i looked at before getting the rabbit was a 07 mercury milan.it drove nice and handled well,but when i opened the hood to see the engine compartment and noticed a prop rod instead of a gas strut this turned the deal sour and i walked away.i know this may seem silly,but in this day and age of gas struts on most cars the prop rod on the milan turned me off. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Nov 10, 2006 2:06 pm) audia8q (Nov 10, 2006 2:16 pm) bodble2 (Nov 10, 2006 3:30 pm) moparbad (Nov 10, 2006 3:46 pm) bodble2 (Nov 10, 2006 6:43 pm)
#87 of 389 Re: prop rod [steven39] by bodble2 Nov 10, 2006 (2:06 pm)
Replying to: steven39 (Nov 10, 2006 1:34 pm) Yes, I get ridiculed from time to time about the prop rod issue. But to me, those things belong on a Flintstone-mobile. I mean, how crude is using a stick to prop up the hood! Why should anyone need both hands just to open and close the hood?   Some of the cars that still use a prop rod totally floors me, given their prices -- Nissan Z, Infiniti G, Mustang Selby, Pathfinder, Honda Pilot, to name a few.   I wouldn't go so far as to say a prop rod, alone, is a deal-breaker for me, but it definitely has been a contributing factor in my eliminating some cars from my shopping list.
#88 of 389 Re: prop rod [steven39] by audia8q Nov 10, 2006 (2:16 pm)
Replying to: steven39 (Nov 10, 2006 1:34 pm) That is the nuttiest thing I have ever heard outside of politics...LOL. Wouldn't you prefer they spend the extra money on something of value? Lets say they saved $15. per car and they build 100,000 Fusions/Milans this year they saved $1.5 million dollars that could be used to make product better...based on the most recent Consumer Reports the Fusion/Milan Ford did something right. maybe that $1.5 million savings by not using gas struts that add cost and weight helped to get that top quality rating....   Don't sweat it, buy exactly what you want and like...I'm just poking a little fun. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Nov 10, 2006 3:30 pm)
#89 of 389 prop rod by steven39 Nov 10, 2006 (3:11 pm)
just for the record here folks,the rabbit's hood is opened with a gas strut, not a prop rod.i just feel that prop rods belong on under $10,000 kia's and hyundai's not on 20,000.00+ cars.it's tasteless as far as iam concerned.
#90 of 389 Re: prop rod [audia8q] by bodble2 Nov 10, 2006 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: audia8q (Nov 10, 2006 2:16 pm) I'm not sure it would even cost them as much as $15/car to install one gas strut in place of the rod. Based on 100,000+ cars, it probably costs them $1.95 per. But lets say it does. I'm sure they could increase the price of the car by $15 and no one would notice. And they would end up selling a few more cars to people like me and steven39!
#91 of 389 Re: prop rod [steven39] by moparbad Nov 10, 2006 (3:46 pm)
Replying to: steven39 (Nov 10, 2006 1:34 pm) I've never had to replace a prop rod. Gas struts and coil springs on hoods have both caused me a problem or two on cars over that past 30 years. I prefer a prop rod.   Redline Tuning offers gas strut kits for many makes and models of vehicles for those who prefer gas struts on their hoods. Replies to this message: bodble2 (Nov 10, 2006 6:43 pm)

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